Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:47:38 -0800 (PST) From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #122 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sender: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Today's Topics: 1. Re: KM rebuttal (spunkykvf) 2. Estalilla Kabaroan Seminar and Video (Ron Reekers) 3. TRAINING (Rudyshorei@aol.com) 4. Richard Bustillo Seminar - Livingston NJ (Don Edwards) 5. Re: 9/11/01 a photo collection around the world (Sugarftkd@aol.com) 6. An Good Book Review on Disarming/ De-fanging the Snake (Absolom Jones) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 07:11:36 -0800 From: spunkykvf To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: KM rebuttal Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >In reply to Travis, I would say that I have heard the videos are ok for training with a school, but they have weaknesses in the sense that not everything taught in a class level is in the tapes. Which makes sense as the tapes would be very long. However, as someone who has taken both escrima, TKD, KSW and some silat. I would have to disagree with Travis's conclusion that KM is a health club class. It is highly effective and efficient. It is not a MA and does not claim to be so there are the internal aspects of the MA that are missing, but for pure self defense that takes a minimum of time to learn, KM is one of the better styles to train in. Now, its knife and such defenses are covered more extensively in BB training. So, doing an arnis art at the same time would give an advantage for the knife and stick defenses. However, most arnis spend a lot of time in weapons and not on working on the punches and kicks needed to follow up on defenses such as chokes, grabs, bearhugs etc. I have taken model mugging classes that work on the same natural reactions that KM emphasizes vs the complex techniques that many MA have in their systems which take years not months to learn and acquire. So, until you actually take a particular style, don't judge off the tapes. > Spunky > >Thaing369 asks for input on Krav Maga. My exposure is quite limited. I've >got the 5 video series. What I do like is that they hit hard, fast and >repeatedly with allot of aggressive attitude. I do feel however that there >are better, more efficient and realistic methods and self defense techniques >available than what is presented on their tape series. For example >someone with a background in southeast Asian martial arts whether silat or >FMA, will be sorely disappointed in the knife defenses presented. I could go >on but you get the gist. On the otherhand if you value $ /commercialism, >e.g. am looking to add a self defense class at the healthclub type scenario, >then it may be it's just what you after. The organization seems dead-on >ready in that regard. MA is not my livelyhood and for me in anycase the >preservation instinct is higher ;) > >Regards, >Travis > > >-- __--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima >Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. > >Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply. > >Remember 9-11! > > >End of Eskrima Digest --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Ron Reekers" To: Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 07:59:41 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Estalilla Kabaroan Seminar and Video Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Greetings All: Please allow me to annouce that Grandmaster Ramiro Estalilla Jr. will be conducting a 2-day seminar (May 4th and 5th) at the Thunder Center in Kabaroan Eskrima. The seminar will cover: 1) Single Weaponry (Sencillian and Bambolian); 2) Double Weaponry (Weapons of equal length and un-equal length); 3) Long Range Weaponry Times will be: Saturday, May 4th from 1:00pm to 6:00pm; Sunday, May 5th from 11:00am to 4:00pm Price will be: pre-registration $45/day or $90 for both days; at the door $50/day or $100 for both days; Spectator's fee $10/day please, no video taping allowed Location: Thunder Center; 11533 Slater Ave. Unit F; Fountain Valley, Ca. 92708; (714) 435-0825 http://www.thundercenter.com Available will be GM Estalilla's Video "An introduction to Estalilla Kabaroan Eskrima". You can also pick one up at http://thundercenter.com/thundercenter/products.html and/or http://bloodsport.com/product.htm Salamat po Guro Ron Reekers --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Rudyshorei@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 11:38:50 EST To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] TRAINING Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Does anyone live or train in Phoenix, Arizona? --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Don Edwards" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 17:03:56 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Richard Bustillo Seminar - Livingston NJ Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net We are hosting a 2 day seminar with Richard Bustillo on April 27th and 28th at Integrated Martial Arts & Fitness. We are located at 113 South Livingston Ave, Livingston NJ 07039. Our phone number is (973) 422-1500 and our web site with directions and other information is www.IMAFIT.COM. Topics covered in half day sessions are JKD, Filipino Martial Arts, Muay Thai and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Cost for 2 days is $115 at the door, $100 pre-registered by April 20th, $65 per day or $45 per session (half-day). Our space is VERY limited so pre-registration is a good idea to gurantee a spot. These seminars are full of information and are always a great time. Hope to see you there. Thanks, Don Edwards _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Sugarftkd@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 13:37:14 EST To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: 9/11/01 a photo collection around the world Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Re: 'Remember 9/11/01'- Here is an impossible photo collection from around the world. Pictoral evidence that humankind is on the right track. http://www.growit.com/america/ Original website was created by Ryan Garland. submitted by Elisabethe Tanzarello --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Absolom Jones" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 04:01:40 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] An Good Book Review on Disarming/ De-fanging the Snake Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I read the following review a few moments ago and thought that I should share this with this Eskrima e-group since it fits very nicely into a topic area of interest. Absolom ==================================================================== ----------------- Forwarded Message -------------------------------- A Review of "De-fanging The Snake" I have just completed reading Guro Dan Anderson’s new e-book, "De-fanging The Snake: A Guide to Modern Arnis Disarms". It is a natural extension of the 1983 publication of Modern Arnis: The Filipino Art of Stick Fighting, as authored by the late Professor Remy Presas and published by Ohara Publications. Whereas the Ohara publication was devoted to serving as a limited introduction to the art of Modern Arnis, with 12 stick to stick and 7 empty hand against a sword disarms shown, Mr. Anderson’s current book greatly expands on the disarming theme found within that earlier book. Mr. Anderson, has presented the most definitive written exploration and explanation of the art of stick disarming from within the Modern Arnis perspective that I have yet come across in my training within the art. For those of us who have had the privilege of training with the late Professor Presas, in the late 1970’s through the mid 1990’s, the bulk of the disarming material presented by Mr. Anderson is both familiar and comforting. We have already seen it and yet it allows us to see so much more, through a ’different set of eyes’. This stuff is vintage Remy Presas, it is the art that this man made famous and it is ‘the magic’, the slight of hand trickery that first amazed us and attracted us to Modern Arnis. The disarms are not the bread and butter of Modern Arnis, they are really the deliciously scented, eye appealing, taste busting sensational desserts within the art, that made us all want to know how to do it for ourselves. While Mr. Anderson, can not capture the full aura and magic of Professor Presas at a seminar, in his hey-day, on the printed page, he has certainly shown us the essential elements that are necessary for one to master in order to understand how to do the disarms which are part of the total Modern Arnis system. The disarms are presented in a clear, concise and detailed manner. Each disarm presented is one that I have seen Professor teaching and in that sense there were no surprises. The explanation of each disarm is depicted in both text and photographs. None of the explanations violate the principles of mechanical motion and is actually quite simple in application. In short, Mr. Anderson, has written a definitive “how to book”. He has also loaded his neat, orderly e-book with good number of logically sequenced photos, devoid of the annoying missing segments, that so often plague most magazine articles. The written text, photos and captions are geared toward providing the reader with a solid, factual explanation about how and why each disarm presented actually works. Within the text and photos, Mr. Anderson, demonstrates the principles of leverage, push-pull, snaking, striking and strength utilizations that are at the core of Modern Arnis disarming. He uses single stick, double stick, stick and dagger as well as empty hand techniques within his text arsenal of tricks. I particularly enjoyed his examples of left handed vs. right handed stick confrontation and how one would proceed to gain a disarm in that situation. Those explanations alone confirm and as well as validate the IEAA teaching practices from my 1991 notes after a long involved training session with Professor Presas. All in all, I am happy to report that "De-fanging The Snake: A Guide to Modern Arnis Disarms", is an excellent book, because the author has taken care to notice and report the details, he has stayed focused on his task, thus meeting his stated objective of teaching the reader about Modern Arnis disarms. I believe that this book is an essential item for those people who want to know about disarming in general and Modern Arnis disarming in particular. If you would like to order a copy of this e-book, you can contact Guro Dan Anderson through the following means: PO Box 1463, Gresham Oregon 97030 http://www.danandersonkarate.com BTW, be sure to tell him that you read my review… it will not make any money for me, but it does help us both to know that we have a literate audience out there, somewhere, in cyberspace. Jerome Barber, Ed.D. Principal Instructor, Independent Escrima/ Arnis Associates --------------- End of Review ---------------------- _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! 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