Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 20:35:47 -0800 (PST) From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #124 - 11 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sender: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Today's Topics: 1. 2 day seminar/Pittsburgh, PA (Ray Terry) 2. Re: An Good Book Review on Disarming/ De-fanging the Snake (Ray Terry) 3. RE: An Good Book Review on Disarming/ De-fanging the Snake (Mike Casto) 4. RE: An Good Book Review on Disarming/ De-fanging the Snake (Ray Terry) 5. sectoring (Eric Taimanglo) 6. RE: An Good Book Review on Disarming/ De-fanging the Snake (Mike Casto) 7. Re: Swain Gold Medal Mats (BJArtigas@aol.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net, the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 11:14:27 PST Subject: [Eskrima] 2 day seminar/Pittsburgh, PA Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net fyi... Pentjak Silat Serak seminar info. Ray Forwarded message: Selamat Folks I will do a two day seminar in Pittsburgh, PA Saturday 20 and Sunday 21 at the Plaza Hotel 1500 Beerschool rd Moontownship near the airport Rooms are very reasonable Their Phone 412 254-7900 You can call the VDT Academy (562) 920-0472 to register See yea all there Pak Vic --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [Eskrima] An Good Book Review on Disarming/ De-fanging the Snake To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 13:05:25 PST Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Just wondering what others think about disarming? IMO Fun to practice, but it would seem to teach people that such things are actually likely to occur in real life. I'd say there is far less than a 1% chance of pulling off a disarm in a real life interpersonal encounter. My favorite disarm? Take my friendly bolo, carried frequently in my back pocket :), and cut off their arm, i.e. a -real- disarm... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 14:32:46 -0600 From: Mike Casto Subject: RE: [Eskrima] An Good Book Review on Disarming/ De-fanging the Snake To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I agree with your assessment, Ray. However, I think they're important to practice because without the practice then we won't have a chance of taking advantage of even that 1%. That having been said, though, a buddy of mine, Steve, executed a beautiful disarm in his stickfight at the Arnold Classic ... and it wasn't a snake disarm (which I would guess is the most likely disarm to pull off). It was what we refer to as a "leverage disarm". As his opponent swung a backhand toward Steve's waist, Steve brought his left hand up under his opponent's wrist while striking his opponent's stick with his stick. His opponent's stick flew out beautifully ... and it was so quick that the opponent didn't realize it was gone for half a second. Mike -----Original Message----- From: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net [mailto:eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net]On Behalf Of Ray Terry Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 3:05 PM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] An Good Book Review on Disarming/ De-fanging the Snake Just wondering what others think about disarming? IMO Fun to practice, but it would seem to teach people that such things are actually likely to occur in real life. I'd say there is far less than a 1% chance of pulling off a disarm in a real life interpersonal encounter. My favorite disarm? Take my friendly bolo, carried frequently in my back pocket :), and cut off their arm, i.e. a -real- disarm... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry Subject: RE: [Eskrima] An Good Book Review on Disarming/ De-fanging the Snake To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 16:44:08 PST Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > I agree with your assessment, Ray. However, I think they're important to > practice because without the practice then we won't have a chance of taking > advantage of even that 1%. Ok, no problem with that. Now... what about the amount of time spent training on this skill? This will obviously vary greatly from school to school and style to style... but it seems (IMHO) to be something that we shouldn't spend a lot of time on given the chances (low, I'd say) of ever using this skill in a real life-n-death situation. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 5 To: Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 17:16:24 -0700 From: "Eric Taimanglo" Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Subject: [Eskrima] sectoring Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I remember an interview with Dan Inosanto a few years back; in it he mentioned something about sectoring... a way to read an opponent's moves... over the years, I have recognized that the basic numbering systems in all FMA have this "advanced" teaching therein. I was wondering if anyone else had thier two cents on this. See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_020201/splash.asp --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 21:58:33 -0600 From: Mike Casto Subject: RE: [Eskrima] An Good Book Review on Disarming/ De-fanging the Snake To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net << Now... what about the amount of time spent training on this skill? This will obviously vary greatly from school to school and style to style... but it seems (IMHO) to be something that we shouldn't spend a lot of time on given the chances (low, I'd say) of ever using this skill in a real life-n-death situation. >> I'd agree ... but disarms are fun :-) That aside, though, I think that the movements involved in the disarms are useful. Most disarms utilize the same structure as a joint lock ... often a wrist lock, which makes good sense since a wrist lock will weaken the grip. All the disarms I can think of use the same principle as a lock. So ... if the disarms are taught in conjunction with the related lock then you can kill two birds with one stone ... and simultaneously make the student aware of the relationship. And, naturally, this relationship then extends into flowing from one thing to another so that if you happen to find a disarm but it doesn't work, you can usually flow to the lock (or vice versa). So, IMHO, since disarms are fun and a lot of people enjoy working them and they do have some practical value, it makes sense to use them to illustrate and develop some underlying principles and motions. Mike --__--__-- Message: 7 From: BJArtigas@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 23:24:07 EST To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Swain Gold Medal Mats Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Ray, I grappled on them for a few years. They are the best mats I have rolled on. They are a bit firm at first it usually takes a few months to get them broken in properly. I didn't experience the chewing up of bare feet that Kevin mentioned but one did tend to get mat burns more frequently then on some of the other mats I have rolled on. I do sugest them though if your looking for a good long lasting mat. Regards, Joe --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest