Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 00:37:48 -0700 (PDT) From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #151 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sender: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Today's Topics: 1. bringing weapons on a plane (Dave Belanger) 2. Re: bringing weapons on a plane (Patrick Davies) 3. Pain compliance (william schultz) 4. Airline security (Tom Meadows) 5. Stratfor on Philippines (Marc Denny) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 06:22:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Belanger To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] bringing weapons on a plane Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net This recent event opened my eyes in regards to bringing ANYTHING on a plane, regardless of who I am. I'm sure security varies between locations, but I wouldn't want to take a chance. PHOENIX, Arizona (CNN) -- Retired Gen. Joe Foss, 86, one of the most highly decorated U.S. war veterans, recently was detained at a security checkpoint at the Phoenix, Arizona, airport because he was carrying an item with sharp edges. The sharp object turned out to be the Congressional Medal of Honor, which he had received in 1943 from President Franklin D. Roosevelt. CNN's Jack Cafferty spoke Tuesday with Foss about his airport experience and career. Read the full article here: http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/02/27/war.hero.cnna/index.html Dave Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Patrick Davies To: "'eskrima@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:04:14 +0100 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: bringing weapons on a plane Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Eric Taimanglo: True, Marc, those methods outlined by you have worked for you. But let's be honest here; the occurences of Sept 11 have security personnel looking at bags a little bit closer; My partner works in security at the airport and they are even removing nail clippers from your bag. She brought me home a S&W Centenary knife the other week. Very nice it looks too. Things are tougher although in some countries its can still be poor. Put it in the hold and it shouldn't be a problem. The comment about travelling in suits interests me. If you turn up in a suit then there is more chance of being upgraded. Rohan make a travellers suit that is wrinkle resistant and light and I intend to travel in one l8r this year when I come across the pond - just to see if I can get the upgrade for that all important leg room. A colleague of mine always gets upgraded on Virgin ever since he intervened in an altercation once. Pat Davies --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: 25 Apr 2002 13:54:29 -0700 From: "william schultz" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Pain compliance Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I have always felt that the term "pain compliance" was a dangerous misnomer. Some people it will work on just fine, others will just give you that silly crazy man smile as they keep comin for you. In my brawling & drinking days, well before I got into the martial arts, I taught some people the hard way that using pain to stop someone just doesn't always work. Now, let me preface this by saying that I don't condone this type of behavior at all. I look back on it feel bad about allot of my behavior at that time in my life, but on the flip side, I learned allot about dealing with pain, reading human anti-social behavior, and pack dynamics of the hunt. Our idea of fun was getting hammered and going out and brawling. Period. Starting fights, finishing fights, or jumping in on someone else's beef. It didn't matter, especially if we were downing some 151. The one constant of all the brawls that I was in was that I didn't feel a dam thing during the fight. In some instances the alcohol helped, but others I only had a few drinks in me. I have been kicked full on in the crotch with cockroach killers, hit in the head with a softball sized rock, and had my right hand smashed with a baseball bat that broke every finger. I just kept going until it was done. Now, when the adrenaline rush was wearing off after the fight that's when the pain came. Some times it could take up to an hour before I would feel it, but it was always well after things had died down. What's the point to my rambling? I agree with the folks who advocate sensory overload (multiple strike), combined with compliance techniques that will allow gravity to introduce them to Mr. Pavement in an overwhelming manner. My knees and/or elbows will quickly re-enforce the meeting once he's on the ground. I want to make sure that I am going to walk away, and that he is down for the count. Chin na techniques just don't work on everyone---least likely the people you want them to work on. William --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Tom Meadows" To: Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:15:50 -0700 Organization: Simple Solutions Subject: [Eskrima] Airline security Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Greetings, After years of diligent work on my part in promoting the whip and dagger arts, I am proud to announce that the bullwhip is OFFICIALLY listed as a forbidden article of carry-on luggage by the FAA. I can't tell you how proud this makes me. It almost brings tears to my eyes.... Given that the formally posted list is in alphabetical order, the bullwhip is the third or fourth item listed which further makes me proud. It even got listed before handguns, rifles and shotguns, items of which most people were reasonably sure were prohibited items, but are now formally on the list. Sincerely, Tom Meadows Latigo y Daga Association --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Marc Denny" To: Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 22:25:37 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Stratfor on Philippines Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Woof All: Comments? Woof, Crafty Dog ------- Philippines: U.S. Exercises May Lead To Regional Base Summary U.S. military engineers are developing infrastructure in the southern Philippines as part of the joint U.S.-Filipino "Balikatan" training exercises. Although the U.S. operations are ostensibly aimed at the Islamic Abu Sayyaf militant group, Washington is likely looking beyond the southern Philippines in the war against terrorism. As U.S. engineers reconstruct roads and airstrips on rebel-infested Basilan Island, the United States may be preparing a forward base there for future regional counterterrorism strikes. Analysis Military engineers from the U.S. Naval Construction Task Group -- commonly referred to as Seabees -- have begun reconstructing the Sumisip Highway, a road connecting six towns and the capital city of the southern Philippine island of Basilan. The construction is part of the joint U.S.-Philippine counterterrorism training exercise in the south known as Balikatan 02-1. More than 1,000 U.S. troops are participating in the exercise directed against the militant Muslim group Abu Sayyaf, which is linked to al Qaeda and blamed for several kidnappings and bombings in the Philippines. U.S. participation in Balikatan has been dubbed the opening of the second front in the war against terrorism. Yet the Abu Sayyaf represents only a limited threat to the United States. The real reason for the exercises is may be evidenced by the U.S. infrastructure development in Basilan, where factions of the rebel group maintain their base of operations. Although the U.S. government is characterizing the development work as an effort to reduce poverty in the region and thus eliminate one of the root causes of terrorism, Washington may be literally paving the way for a forward logistics and operations base to conduct regional counterterrorism strikes. The U.S. presence in the Philippines, which began when American troops were deployed in January to provide assistance and training to Filipino forces, has stirred controversy in the country. Politicians debated the constitutionality of the deployment and especially whether U.S. soldiers would engage in combat operations. It was only after being carefully constrained in size and scope that the Balikatan exercise cleared the legal and political hurdles in Manila. U.S. participation was initially limited to 660 personnel, of which just 160 -- organized into 12-man Special Forces teams -- would be with Philippine troops in the field on Basilan. The remaining support and training staff would be relegated to operating around the southern city of Zamboanga on nearby Mindanao and to a support base on Mactan Island near Cebu. Through extensions and modifications to the initial terms, the total U.S. deployment now exceeds 1,000, comprising 160 Special Forces and 340 Seabees and Marine guards on Basilan, 440 support and training staff near Zamboanga and as many as 300 aviation, logistics and intelligence personnel on Mactan. The U.S. forces are joined by nearly 4,000 Philippine troops who are engaged in tracking down and destroying the Abu Sayyaf and freeing three hostages -- including two Americans -- the group still holds. The initial U.S. participation was likely triggered by the numerous reports of links between the Abu Sayyaf and al Qaeda. Several key Abu Sayyaf members allegedly trained in Afghanistan and participated in planning sessions to assassinate the Pope and crash hijacked airliners into the ocean. Abu Sayyaf also demanded the release of convicted World Trade Center bomber Ramsi Youseff in return for the release of several hostages. Yet the links between Abu Sayyaf and al Qaeda operatives have faded over the past few years, particularly as the former began straying from being an ideological separatist cell to a collection of semi-autonomous kidnap-for-ransom gangs. Destroying the Abu Sayyaf then will accomplish little in Washington's fight against international terrorism and al Qaeda, particularly because Abu Sayyaf operates almost exclusively inside the Philippines and is nearly isolated to Basilan. But the continued, and even expanded, U.S. presence on Basilan demonstrates a second layer to Washington's operations in the Philippines. Basilan is far from Manila, and if it weren't for the Abu Sayyaf, it would be an island of little note. Yet its location is strategic if the United States wants to establish a forward logistics and operations base in Southeast Asia. Despite the political bickering in Manila, the Philippines is a focal point for U.S. operations in the region due to Washington's close relationship with the government and the country's proximity to Malaysia and, more importantly, Indonesia. Indonesia, like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, would be a very attractive location for al Qaeda to regroup, due to the massive Muslim population, limited central control and the underlying sympathies of some influential political and military figures. These same features also make U.S. cooperation and anti-terrorism operations in Indonesia extremely difficult. That is why it is important for the United States to set up an operations facility outside Indonesia but close enough for action. U.S. military planners have looked at the city of General Santos in southern Mindanao as an ideal location for facilities, with both sea and land access. After the Philippine government decided not to renew the U.S. lease on the Subic Naval Base in 1991, Washington's chances of re-establishing a new facility in the Philippines were seen as extremely slim. Then came the global war against terrorism. The presence of Abu Sayyaf provided the perfect reason to return with minimal political backlash, and that directed Washington to Basilan as an alternative to General Santos. In many respects, Basilan has several benefits over General Santos, most notably its small size. An opposing force would find it difficult to mass for an attack on the facilities, so the defending U.S. and Philippine troop numbers could be smaller. Furthermore, General Santos has a very busy port, offering cover to potential terrorists or other aggressors. And Basilan's built- in insurgency provides a convenient political cover for the establishment of a more permanent U.S. presence on the island. Although the political debate in Manila has yet to be quieted, the United States is well on its way to creating a conducive environment in Basilan for a forward operations base. The Seabees are repairing the main road around the island, upgrading other roads and improving two airstrips and pier facilities -- all changes that will make the island much more useful for U.S. troops to operate from. U.S. forces involved in the separate but simultaneous Balikatan 02-2 exercises on the main northern island of Luzon are training in jungle warfare and survival techniques, useful for other places in Southeast Asia. The Abu Sayyaf problem offers a rhetorical cover for U.S. activity in the Philippines, avoiding or at least postponing the politically volatile issue of a more permanent U.S. base in its former colony. Ultimately, U.S. operations in the southern Philippines are directed less at defeating the Abu Sayyaf and more at establishing a forward operation base in Southeast Asia - - with an eye on Indonesia as a likely first target. ___________________________________________________________________ SEND THIS TO A FRIEND! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you like this analysis? Then forward it to a friend! Got this from a friend? Get your own by becoming a member! http://www.stratfor.com/house/about/subscriptions/about.php --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest