Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 02:09:28 -0700 (PDT) From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #163 - 3 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sender: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Today's Topics: 1. re: doormen (Brad J. Ellis) 2. Sayoc Transition Drills (Steven Lefebvre) 3. back home (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:19:53 -0700 From: "Brad J. Ellis" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] re: doormen Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Great post on bouncers. The hands up trick is a good one, and so much less antagonistic than the old cross-my-arms-so-they-look-bigger bit. I personally use the apologetic hand over my heart gesture a lot while doing security work, just in case. If I can add a few more tips to the list: -Deflect blame as much as you can. It should never be personal. When tossing someone they always want to know why; "because I SAID SO!" is a good way to start a fight.... much easier to make someone else the jerk. Bouncers directly involved in forcibly ejecting a problem patron should hand off the guy to the doorman and go back inside, out of sight. Drunks tend to focus anger on whoever actually throws them out, getting that bouncer out of the equation makes it easier to de-escalate the problem. -Never hit anyone in the face with a closed fist. Sometimes the inevitable happens and you can't talk your way out, so do what you have to do discreetly. A thrown punch can be seen from a long way and you never know who's watching. Drawing others into the fray or creating a situation where people are stampeding to get away from a fistfight is bad. I figure anyone reading this board should know a little something about being sneaky at close range, not to be disrespectful. There are so many options, yet I keep seeing bouncer guys go back to the big right like a security blanket. If you do wind up in court (it happens, especially in California), you don't want to be there with your knuckles busted up to match the plaintiffs wired jaw. -PATIENCE. It isn't personal. I've seen guys rip off their security shirts yelling, "I quit!" just to go fight some drunk. A bouncer should always give repect but never demand it in return. Never get in a fight because someone disrespected you, that's reactionary, someone else is leading the way. It shouldn't matter what that drunk says about you (or your mother), just smile back and thank him for coming. Level heads are rare, but if you stay patient and calm you will stay out of most physical altercations and be in a better (and faster) frame for the ones that go bad. Thanks to all who have posted on this, glad to see people who do this job thinking about it in a way that is constructive.... please stay safe, Brad --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Steven Lefebvre" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:11:37 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Sayoc Transition Drills Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello Jamie, The Sayoc Transition drills allow people who have studied other martial arts, to Transition into Sayoc Kali. The Transition drills teach methods of flow, body movement and response to attacks that are not always familiar to most people. They are not meant to teach you how to fight with Sayoc Kali(although they do form a background) but rather a "bridging language" into the actual knife drills, that are closer to the true fighting applications. In the Transition drills there are particular principles that are being developed(different in each drill) but the flow of feeder and receiver is held constant. Ex, TD#1 is teaching us about the "feeder's perspective" of trying to gain control of the opponent with grabs and locking, but the receiver is able counter with wiping, clearing etc and remains in control. TD#1 is a linear form and in this drill the receiver is not otherwise aggressive. Ex TD#2 the receiver is aggressive and tries to control the feeder and works in strikes(such as elbows and slaps) into the drill. TD#2 is much more circular in flow. These drills are broken out and isolated as applications, and to develop heightened sensitivity to particular openings or movements that a practitioner wants to, or needs to develop further. I hope this gives you further insight into Sayoc Kali. Gumagalang Guro Steve L. (Kayan Isa Guro, Sayoc Kali) Head Instructor/Owner, Bujinkan Dojo NH www.Bujinkandojo.net www.Sayoc.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang), eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 18:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] back home Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I survived the emergency surgery and week of hospitalization in London and am now back home again in sunny California. After three weeks it will be great to be back in my own bed again. Another adventure successfully completed... Ray Terry --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. 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