Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 13:12:04 -0700 (PDT) From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #164 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sender: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Today's Topics: 1. Re: Sayoc Kali Transition Drills (GuroJeff@aol.com) 2. Marc Macyoung (Musilat@aol.com) 3. MPEG problem (bill m) 4. Better health to you Mas Ray (Seraksatu@aol.com) 5. visiting (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: GuroJeff@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 07:18:59 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Sayoc Kali Transition Drills Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Dear Jamie and all on Eskrima Digest, hello, and thanks for the great question!! The transitional flow drills that are shown on the multimedia clips, represent just a part of the training methods used in Sayoc Kali. They teach how to flow, and they teach people how to move and react using a blade and receiving a blade that many are not used to. It can be stated that these drills allow someone with a background not in Sayoc Kali, to start learning and understanding how one would actually be able to use Sayoc Kali. By being familiar with the transitional flow drills, it allows a person to begin being able to understand and use Sayoc Kali in a more realistic and appropriate fashion. The way the drills are initially presented, you see a feeder and a receiver. One person has a blade, the other does not. Each drill has a specific purpose of learning and teaching different attributes and concepts. It presents a method of appropriate response. Looking at the Transitional Flow Drills in isolation doesn't allow for u nderstanding of the complete system of Sayoc Kali. There are many facets of our training which are incorporated within the movements of the drill, which are not readily apparent. (That is why there is a need to have a qualified instructor present when learning to truly understand all the different facets of what is being shown). In Sayoc Kali, we look at things such as weapons retention, and control or reacquiring an opponent's tools or weapons. Each movement within the transitional flow drill, has several levels of isolation depending upon level of understanding and intent. All principles and tactics, and techniques of Sayoc Kali (Silak and Bakal included) may be incorporated into the movements of the transition drills. All techniques we train, are trained in movement and therefore become more "live" and more understandable about how things "fit" into application. At all points of the training of the transition drills, we are looking for entry. Note that the transition drills will address linear, and circular movements, and different types of reactions. The transitional flow drills are NOT advanced coordination drills. Advanced drills come in later . As one progresses in the transition drills, the advanced student learns how to manipulate and further control the partner within the drills. I know this may not sound too clear initially... it takes a while to truly understand all the different facets of the transitional flow drills, let alone the entire system of Sayoc Kali. Keep in mind, Sayoc Kali has been passed through 5 generations of study... that is a long time to accumulate knowledge and experience in a fighting system. Sayoc Kali is a complete martial art and the transition drills are but a part of the training methodology. The best way to get more information is this...if one is interested in what we do; 1-go to the Sayoc.com website... we have lots of introductory information there, and many articles i have written... 2-i strongly suggest becoming a member of our association... that allows you to see the members' area which describes what i've talked about in much greater detail and will certainly offer more insight into the particulars of each flow drill...3- look for a seminar or training group near you. I've been training and promoting Sayoc Kali with Tuhon Sayoc since 1997. I've been teaching Sayoc Kali locally, and have also been travelling about teaching. Experience counts. When you see one of our instructors, ask them to show you some of the principles and particulars in person. It's really the only way to understand fully what we do. Tuhon is a great teacher and has a world of knowledge. He is open to respectful and open--minded questions. My seniors are also a phenomenal sources of information. Check out our websites, and look for a seminar soon. I know that we have plans for Sayoc Kali seminars in the UK in the near future. To reiterate, the transitional flow drills are just another part of our training. In addition to the flow drills, we have knife drills, templates, grappling components, projectiles, flexibile weapons, etc.. I hope this helped, Jamie! My apologies to all for taking up so much bandwidth here. sincere respects to all, Guro Jeff http://www.tribalbladefightingarts.com In a message dated 5/10/02 12:08:29 AM, eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net writes: << From: Jamie Hutchins To: "'eskrima@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 10:38:33 +0100 Subject: [Eskrima] Sayoc transition drills Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Jeff (and other ED members), I have to admit my complete ignorance of Sayoc Kali and its theories as I don't know of anyone teaching it in the UK. However I was very interested in the video clips that you directed us to. So I was wondering if you (or someone else here) could talk us through them a little? What are the aims of these particular drills? Where do they fit into the Sayoc system (i.e. are they advanced coordination drills or something)? As they are called 'transition drills' is the point that you are deflecting the oncoming attack into a position that is less dangerous to you and then just flow into another attack/defence scenario? I look forward to hearing from you and hope my questions make sense. Thanks. Jamie >> --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Musilat@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 00:44:53 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Marc Macyoung Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Marc, Thanks for the compliments and advice. All points were well taken. It sounds like you've spent a heck of a lot of time in trenches far deeper than the ones I have seen. That said, I think I left out a couple of important points. 1) In this day and age, fighting is a bad policy (as it always really is) because of the potential health risks associated with the exchange of blood or saliva. I feel that this is the best reason to perfect your verbal abilities. 'Nuff said. 2) As you pointed out, sometimes you have to make it very clear that you are not a pushover. The dumbest guys (the ones that want a fight) are not the ones that will ever respond to logic. In one instance a biker decided to explain to me (while I was eating dinner) that I was a "young punk" and that he was going to "kick my #ss". So...I called upon my acting skills (for lack of a better term) and copped my best Clint Eastwood vibe and said "right now you are interrupting my dinner and until you kick my #ss, you are just talking s#$t", so if you think you can, here I am." None of that garbage is something I could ever say with a straight face in most situations, but the point is, after all his crowing, he showed me respect and left without incident. It actually dragged on for a while, but my patience and B.S. machismo paid off. Whew! Best, Steve Kohn --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "bill m" To: Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 00:57:38 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] MPEG problem Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I am having a problem putting MPEG videos on my web page and would like some help from those of you who, unlike myself, actually know how something about web site construction. I am using MS FrontPage 2000 and upload via cable modem. When I import a MPEG to my site I am getting only the first few seconds of the video to play in MS Media Player. For example, I have a video that plays for 38 seconds when I play it from my hard drive, but I get only the first 8 seconds when I download it off my web site, even though Properties reads it as being the same file size from both locations. I am using only a fraction of the space allotted to me by my web host server, so storage space is not the problem. The video is stopping mid-scene, so any editing done after filming the MPEG is not a factor. How can I get my whole MPEG to play? Thanks, Tuhon Bill McGrath --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Seraksatu@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 11:00:50 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Better health to you Mas Ray Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Selamat Mas Ray: Okay, what is this, you had no permission to get very sick, next time put an application in, then it will be denied to get sick. Really glad your back home and your Okay Mas Ray. May you have the health Gods look over you, our very best wish for your safe and healthy recovery My Hormat to you an older Brother, Pak Vic Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 18:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] back home Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I survived the emergency surgery and week of hospitalization in London and am now back home again in sunny California. After three weeks it will be great to be back in my own bed again. Another adventure successfully completed... Ray Terry --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 13:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] visiting Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Forwarding... From: Hello all, The Philippines is sending a delegation to do Filipino Martial Arts Promotions in various parts of the US and Canada, and Europe if it's still possible.Ê Anyway, we'd like to send the delegation to as many places and areas as possible.Ê So, if any group (martial arts, self- defense, FMA's or law enforcers) has any events (training camps, organizational assemblies and the like) and would like to be visited with FMA demonstrations this year and next, please email defense@edsamail.com.ph the details of your event. If there is no event, your groups can organize a huge gathering and we will be glad to visit you then as well. In your emails, please include shchool/dojo/gym name, address, telephone numbers, email, contact person and other details. The trips will start in June so send me your details soon. KSHsia --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest