Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 02:10:26 -0700 (PDT) From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #167 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sender: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Inay (1944-2000). http://InayanEskrima.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Garimot Arnis/Buno Seminar (GatPuno@aol.com) 2. Re: Guns in Europe: WSJ (Patrick Davies) 3. Half staff (Ray Terry) 4. Re: UK gun ban (Bill Lowery) 5. [The_Dojang] Re: Saito, Morihiro Passes (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: GatPuno@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 08:39:53 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Garimot Arnis/Buno Seminar Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Dear Member, I am planning to visit NY, City and NJ area on the first week of July, if anyone interested to host a small gathering or Seminar for those interested to experience the Garimot Arnis and Harimaw Buno (Filipino Wrestling) first hand, please drop me an e-mail at gatpuno@aol.com Also I will be in Chicago on June 23, for the Garimot Arnis/Buno Seminar, and I am planning to stay until Wednesday or Thursday. If anyone interested for private, or group class let me know so I can arrange my schedule during my visit. The July 10-14 Garimot Summer Retreat is around the corner, just a reminder that we are only accepting certain numbers of participant to maximized their experience, into Garimot Family System, and Harimaw Buno. During this Summer Retreat, there is a lot of stickfighting and Buno (grappling) match that will change your fighting ability positively. I also included myself to line of stickfighter that you may experience fighting with a stick and ground fighting. Hope to see some of you again, Lots of fun. Salamat uli, Thank you again, Gumagalang/with respect, Gat Puno Abon "Garimot" Baet Laguna Arnis Federation International US Harimaw Buno Federation Hilot Research Center USA --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Patrick Davies To: "'eskrima@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 15:53:25 +0100 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Guns in Europe: WSJ Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Not balanced enough an article to allow to go unpassed. >The problem with such laws is that they take away guns from law-abiding citizens, while would-be criminals ignore them, leaving potential victims defenseless. >The U.S. has shown that making guns more available is actually a better formula for law and order. I don't quite see the logic of this. Most of the gun crime is actually inbred. By that I mean the guns are used more on the other gangs with guns. Bar the schizo who walks into a school having watched too many hollywood movies, most of the UK gun crime is incestuous. While there are one or two discrepancies the fear of handguns from the general public is from the police accidentally shooting them. Recent reports in the press targeted fake guns and cigarette lighters as the most dangerous. We accept Marc McYoung and co's analogies of people who want to take you out sneaking up behind you and getting you at the weakest moment, yet this article seems to assume that this wont happen just because you can apply for a licence. I don't understand the logic. >Another inconvenient fact is frequently ignored by gun control advocates: >Many countries with high homicide rates have gun bans. If X wants to kill Y and knows that Y has a gun then X will use a gun. The reason for homicide amounts are separate and it would be naiive to think that guns would be the answer to that. While the UK and US are different cultures there are also different reasons that cannot be pigeon holed to satisfy self interest. I live in an area where there is very little gun crime, no kids accidentally shooting themselves. To say that it a result of gun banning would be as naiive as the article posted. Does mean though that I am more likely to personally step forward when someone needs assistance with the confidence that im not going to get shot. You want to reduce homicide then look at how we as a society live. We worship the wrong role models. The guns not the blame, it's the IQ of the people using it and until the balance is there in terms of all the input that people see about guns it will never be achievable. You keep your guns if that's what you want. Im happy here without the culture under the current circumstances. Pat Davies --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net, the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 14:53:24 PDT Subject: [Eskrima] Half staff Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >FLAGS TO BE FLOWN AT HALF-STAFF ON "PEACE OFFICERS MEMORIAL DAY" > >The National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund has issued a >reminder to all police and other governmental agencies, as well as to >businesses and private citizens across the country that all flags of >the United States are to be flown at half-staff on May 15, "Peace >Officers Memorial Day." > >In 1994, the U.S. Congress and then President Bill Clinton approved the law, >P.L. 103-322, requiring the American flag to be lowered to half-staff on >May 15 as a special tribute to the more than 15,000 law enforcement officers >who have died in the line of duty. The law was spearheaded by then-U.S. Rep. >John Porter at the request of the Memorial Fund. > >"This is one of the highest honors our nation can bestow upon >anyone," observed Memorial Fund chairman Craig W. Floyd. "It is also >an honor that is richly deserved. Last year, 228 law enforcement >officers were killed in the line of duty, making it the deadliest >year for the law enforcement profession since 1975. Included in this >total are 70 officers who died at the World Trade Center on September >11, the most officers ever to be killed in a single incident in the >history of our nation. When we lower our flags on Peace Officers >Memorial Day we will be recognizing that those brave men and women >died upholding our laws and preserving public safety." --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Bill Lowery" To: Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 19:46:53 +0100 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: UK gun ban Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi All, Ain't that something? You ban guns, and the criminals take no notice of the new law. Personnally, I think they may be bad people....! Bill Lowery --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Terry To: policedo@martialartsresource.net, eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 18:38:02 PDT Subject: [Eskrima] [The_Dojang] Re: Saito, Morihiro Passes Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Forwarded message: I know this is not exactly "Korean" news but we have lost another Martial Arts giant. "...... Aikido Great Morihiro Saito Shihan passes It is with great sadness that we announce the passing of Morihiro Saito Sensei in Iwama, Japan early Monday morning, May 13, 2002. Saito Sensei was truly one of the giants of modern aikido and his strong presence will be sorely missed. This editor was among the thousands of students touched by Saito Sensei during his lifetime. His son and successor Hitohiro Saito Shihan plans to hold a private funeral for family members shortly and a formal ceremony to be held in Japan in about one month's time. He asks that anyone planning to go to Japan to pay their respects attend the formal funeral to be announced soon. For those interested in learning more about Saito Sensei, here are two articles available on our website: http://www.aikidojournal.com/articles/_article.asp?ArticleID=159 http://www.aikidojournal.com/articles/_article.asp?ArticleID=758 Stanley Pranin ....................." For people both in the Aikido community as well as in the larger World MA community, OS Saitos' lifetime contributions to cataloguing technique, authorship, teaching and leadership have made him a legend. "The Golden Bell which rings but once; Peace upon his pillow." 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