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Today's Topics:

   1. [Policedo] Walking the Point (Ray Terry)
   2. Speaking in tongues (Bobbe Edmonds)
   3. Re: CASS MAGDA SILAT-KALI-JKD CAMP (Magdainst@aol.com)
   4. Home invasions (Ray Terry)
   5. Re: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #168 - 5 msgs (Beungood@aol.com)
   6. Inayan seminar (jim bruce)
   7. subject lines (Ray Terry)

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Message: 1
From: Ray Terry <raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com>
To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net, the_dojang@martialartsresource.net
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:27:12 PDT
Subject: [Eskrima] [Policedo] Walking the Point
Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net

Forwarded message from DrgnSlyr5@aol.com:

This was shared with me by a fellow black belt who works for the L.A. County 
Sheriff's Dept.  As you can see, it is being passed from officer to officer 
to friends who care.  Our hearts go out to the March family.  We know it 
could have been us.  

<<Hello all.  This is really a forward of something special I received from 
a friend of mine who is a police officer in Irwindale, California.  Some of 
you may have been aware that we lost one of our local officers to a piece of 
scum who is an illegal alien, drug-dealing, murderer.  He was pulled over for 
a routine traffic stop and callously took the life of a good man with a wife 
and young children.  The following speaks for itself:

This is a e-mail I would like to pass on from a friend who is a former LASO 
Deputy, now Culver City P.D. Sergeant.


As I was getting my leather gear cleaned up for the funeral of LASD Deputy 
David March being held tomorrow, I thought of the following exerpt from an 
article I read several years ago.  And I thought I would share it with some 
of my friends. 

The author talks about how after a peace officer is murdered in the line of 
duty, varying reactions are felt by different officers/deputies.  Basically, 
some guys make sure they find what the dead cop did wrong in a tactical sense 
(and often this is a worthwhile thing to look for), but then others simply 
realize the greater truth-and that is that regardless of how well we perform 
our duties in a tactical sense, cops will continue to be killed in the line 
of duty. 

The following is an exerpt from his article: 

There are some things that you just can't do without suffering-very literally 
and profoundly-casualties; and our job is one of them. 

You can't race cars without crashes, you can't dig mines without cave-ins, 
and you sure as hell can't send cops out into the streets of a violent 
society without violent deaths.  Our fallen brothers knew that and did it 
anyway--as we all do or have done.  ........Their friends will tell you they 
did the job because they loved it, and any of us who can't say that should 
envy them for it.  At least they died as rare and precious people: doing what 
they loved to do, and doing it for the noblest of reasons.  That is something 
we can never explain outside of our profession.   

You see, you can't be a good cop simply because you couldn't get another job. 

You can only be a good cop because you want it.  And there is an answer as 
to why they died, something I learned half a world away many years ago as a 
young Marine, preparing to face an enemy in combat for the first time.  It 
was then that my sergeant explained that, like it or not, there are only 
three rules in war: 

Rule Number One is "YOUNG MEN DIE" 
Rule Number Two is "YOU CAN'T CHANGE RULE #1" 
Rule Number Three is "SOMEBODY HAS TO WALK THE POINT" 

You see, when soldiers advance, knowing the enemy is near, there is always 
one man way out in front of everyone else.  His duty is to look and listen 
and sense that first contact; to spot the enemy, pinpoint the ambush, fire 
that first shot, and as a consequence, take those first shots. 

It offends the logical mind and denies the instinct for survival.  It ages 
and saddens and wizens, and frequently kills those who take their turn 
"Walking the Point".  But it must be done, or there would be no protection 
for the rest, just more bloodshed, and more grief.  For the "Point Man" is 
there to save lives, even if he gives his own in the process. 

Society may not be a company of soldiers, but it certainly has (and needs) 
somebody walking the point.  Every time you go out the station door, every 
time you answer the radio call, every time you stop to check out something 
suspicious. AND YOU CAN'T CHANGE RULE NUMBER ONE.   

If I could say something directly to the people in our society, it would be 
this.  I know some of you will remember our brothers, but that's not good 
enough.  I want you to honor them for what they did for you-that which they 
needn't have done.  I'm not just talking about what they did on the day that 
"routine" call or stop that went horribly bad.  I mean what they did for you 
day after day, in darkness and light, rain or shine, on holidays and on their 

loved ones' birthdays, without ever expecting even a "thank you" in return.  
They volunteered to "Walk the Point". >>
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Message: 2
From: "Bobbe Edmonds" <fistwind@worldnet.att.net>
To: <eskrima@martialartsresource.net>
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:24:17 -0700
Subject: [Eskrima] Speaking in tongues
Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net

This has been going faster than I could keep up with, but there are a couple
of things I wanted to comment on...

>From Bill Evan's reply (I don't know who the original author was) :

"I live in an area where there is very little gun
crime, no kids accidentally shooting themselves."

So did most people 15 years ago. This was practically unheard-of in the mid
80's. Now it's everywhere. Grammer-school level kids are dealing with this
kind of violence on a daily basis. If it hasn't happened to your neighborhood,
wait a bit. Time catches us all.

From Tom Meadows:

"Grandmaster Cacoy Canete's recently published book on Pangamot devotes no
less than 15 pages to gun disarming, and I know he was teaching them to his
military regiment as early as 1938."

He still does to this day. He demo'd some at his last seminar here in Seattle.
Not many other instructors approach this subject, I'm glad to see so many
people, such as yourself & Guro Crafty tackling it.

"There are currently more guns in America than Americans by about 4% last
time I checked: This is well over 200 million guns. The bull is out of the
pen, and it is not going back in. I fully support learning to bullfight....."

Bingo!  I applaud you, Guro Meadows. Standing ovation, even.

Bobbe Edmonds

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Message: 3
From: Magdainst@aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 19:58:12 EDT
To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net
Subject: [Eskrima] Re: CASS MAGDA SILAT-KALI-JKD CAMP
Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net

CASS MAGDA   3rd ANNUAL SILAT KALI JKD CAMP 2002

JULY 17th – 21st, 2002
You will train intensively for 5 days at the fully equipped Magda Institute
in Los Angeles California.

Cass Magda is a world-recognized authority of the Indonesian-Filipino martial
arts and JKD. Known for his incredible teaching style and real take home
knowledge seminars, you won’t want to miss this.

Preregistration fee $275 deadline June 30th.   $325 after.

Register early to guarantee your place. Limited enrolment. First come first
serve basis. Camp fee does not include lodging. Restaurants are within
walking distance of Institute.Visit our website www.cassmagda.com and look
under the visitor’s guide. Visa/Mastercard accepted.

Contact :   Magda Institute
7255 Canby Ave
Reseda CA 91335
(818) 342-2455   FAX (818) 363-0729     email:  Magdainst@aol.com

Training times
10 am – 12:30 pm         2pm – 4 pm

Registration is Wednesday  9am – 10am.

Camp participants are also invited to train free of charge in the evening
classes of the Magda Institute. Evening classes are Wed and Thursday evening,
every hour,  5:30 – 6:30 –7:30 –8:30

Equipment needed

1.Pair of rattan escrima sticks
2.Practice dagger
3.Sarong
4.Bag gloves and shin guards

Sticks, daggers, bag gloves and sarongs available for purchase at Magda
Institute.
Wear comfortable clothing such as T-shirts, sweats, shorts.

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Message: 4
From: Ray Terry <raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com>
To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 19:06:46 PDT
Subject: [Eskrima] Home invasions
Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net

> Recent years have shown an increase in
> the use of guns for crimes such as mugging and burglary too. Are we to
> believe that an armed home-owner or person on the street is a deterrent to
> such actions.   ...

One final(?) point from me.    :)

In short, yes.  Very much so.  We know that home invasions when the resident
is present are far more common in countries with very strong gun control.  
Why?  One very probable reason is that the criminal realizes that there is
little chance they'll confront a properly armed home owner.

Ray Terry
raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com

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Message: 5
From: Beungood@aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 22:40:17 EDT
To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net
Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #168 - 5 msgs
Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net

In a message dated 5/14/02 3:03:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net writes:


> The fact that a black market in banned weapons exists in the UK and other
> parts of Europe is indicative of the motivation of the individuals wishing
> to use them in criminal activity rather than frustrated hobbyists going to
> any lengths to own such weapons (or indeed scared home-owners wanting to
> protect themselves). I fail to see how the introduction of handguns (and
> indeed shotguns, rifles or assault weapons) into the general populous will
> aid us in reducing the amount of gun related crime.

Maybe it will keep some scum sucker from breaking into a house or trying to 
prey on someone if he thinks they are armed?..

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:15:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: jim bruce <deputyddawg@yahoo.com>
To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net
Subject: [Eskrima] Inayan seminar
Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net

Master Terry,

We were sorry to here of your problems in England. 
Especialy the fact that you had to cancel plans to
visit Ohio and West Virginia this week.  We were
looking to you teaching more Inayan Escrima.

Next time hopefully.

Jim Bruce


=====
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Message: 7
From: Ray Terry <raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com>
To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 21:07:41 PDT
Subject: [Eskrima] subject lines
Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net

Folks,

Please remember to update your subject line when you reply to a digest
issue.

Thanks.

Ray Terry
raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com


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