Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 15:34:00 -0700 (PDT) From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #180 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sender: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Today's Topics: 1. Martial Arts America (Bobbe Edmonds) 2. Reply to Jay de Leon (Steven Lefebvre) 3. New Pikiti-Tirsia MPegs (Glenn Harris) 4. Leo Giron, RIP (Ray Terry) 5. New Book on Muay Thai (Terry Tippie) 6. just fyi... (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Bobbe Edmonds" To: Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 01:20:00 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Martial Arts America Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net "I'll tell you what, go out and get Bob Orlando's Martial Arts America." (Marc MacYoung) Isn't that book the greatest? He covers material most instructors nowadays won't even APPROACH! I have made it required reading for my school. Read some of the reviews it got on Amazon, most liked it, but it also ruffled a few feathers! If you teach martial arts, you should read this book. It pretty much has something for everyone. Bobbe Edmonds --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Steven Lefebvre" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:19:28 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Reply to Jay de Leon Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello again! Jay, I am in full agreement with you on these points! I truely believe many western practitioners of the Filipino Martial arts, did not understand that firearms are just another tool in the arsenal of self protection tactics. As this issue all stemmed from an earlier posting about gun control in the European countries, it has blossemed out into discussions ranging from combative martial arts, to are fireams a part of training. Thank you for your input! Gumagalang Guro Steve L. www.Bujinkandojo.net www.Sayoc.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Glenn Harris" To: Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 07:26:15 -0400 Subject: [Eskrima] New Pikiti-Tirsia MPegs Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Tuhon Bill This is Guro Glenn Harris here in Miami Florida. Just a quick note to let you know that we had no problems viewing all the mpegs you now have posted. I'm ashamed to say that this was my first time to your site (but definitely not my last). Thanks for keeping us all aware for the updates on your site. We hope to do the same with Gat Puno Abundio Baet's site in the near future. Gumagalang, with respect Guro Glenn Harris Garimot System USA US Harimaw Buno Federation chanoaim@bellsouth.net --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 15:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] Leo Giron, RIP Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Just heard... Leo Giron has apparently died. RIP. Ray Terry --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:45:39 -0700 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: Terry Tippie Subject: [Eskrima] New Book on Muay Thai Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I thought I might forward my review of this book to the E-D on the chances that there might be a few Muay Thai guys out there. Regards, Terry Tippie Thai Boxing Assoc. of the U.S.A. >To: "Kat" Subject: Re: Muay Thai, A Living Legacy, A Request > >Kat, > >I would like to congratulate you on the publication of "Muay Thai: A Living Legacy". As I recall I am somewhat overdue to get back to you >with my feedback on this book. Please accept my apologies for this late response. > >My comments are quite positive. I thought this book was excellent, and plan on making it recommended reading as the first primary >English language reference on Muay Thai to my students. Please find my comments below: > >Terry Tippie >_____________________________________________ >Visitors browsing the martial arts section of American bookstores will find many books devoted to Karate, Aikido, Jujutsu, Tae Kwon Do, >Judo, Tai Chi Chuan, etc. One thing they are unlikely to find is a book devoted to the Thai art of Muay Thai, or Thai Boxing--despite the >growing popularity of Muay Thai in the west. The reason is simple: There are almost no books on the subject available in English. The >recent publication of the beautifully illustrated "Muay Thai: A Living Legacy" by Kat Prayukvong and Lesley Junlakan, Spry Books, 2002 >changes that. > >Overall look and feel: The graphics, layout and photographs are quite professionally and beautifully done. As the inside cover suggests, >this book can be used for the coffee table. > >History: "Muay Thai: A Living Legacy" devotes the first 50 pages to a detailed coverage of the history of Thai boxing. Topics covered >include the origins of Muay Thai, bound fist boxing, royal involvement in Muay Thai, early Muay Thai heroes and an interesting graphical >depiction of the different epochs in Muay Thai history. There are many interesting old photos of training and matches that will be of >interest to anyone interested in Muay Thai history. Although a historical connection with Krabi-Krabong was mentioned briefly I regret that >I did not see any pictures illustrating Krabi-Krabong. > >Many English language books on the martial arts do little primary research in the native language of a given martial art. They tend to >repeat the oral histories as told by a few masters, and no doubt repeat many fallacies as well as facts. Refreshingly, "Muay Thai: A Living >Legacy" avoided these pitfalls by doing thorough primary research in the Thai language as well as discussing issues which cannot be >resolved due to the destruction of key historical records. That's the way it should be done. > >Ceremony & Ritual: I was particularly pleased with the sections within "Muay Thai: A Living Legacy" on the rituals, incantations and >ceremonies of homage and respect that are central to the study and practice of Muay Thai. These sections draw the reader into a the >world of a Muay Thai fighter where every action leading up to a fight is deeply spiritual and filled with meaning. This is the soul of Muay >Thai, a soul which most westerners do not know exists. For example, "Muay Thai: A Living Legacy" has a chapter devoted to Wai Khru or >Ram Muay, the pre-fight ritual of paying respects to one's teacher, as well as an enclosed poster covering step by step instructions and >pictures. The coverage these issues receive in this book is excellent and goes far beyond anything previously available in the English >language. > >Thai terminology: Serious students of Muay Thai wishing to gain an understanding of Muay Thai terminology will find this book helpful. >Every technique and ritual has its Thai language term listed in both Thai and transliterated roman lettering and English language >translation. In addition, there is an appendix on Thai terminology. > >Muay Thai technique: "Muay Thai: A Living Legacy" devotes 175 pages to physical training aspects of Muay Thai. Topics included are >warm-up exercises, wrapping hands (nice work on the detailed pictures), basic first-aid, stance, footwork and basic defenses. The book >devotes many pages to depicting the various attacks in the Muay Thai arsenal with pictures and explanations of targets, mechanics as >well as notes on usage. I did find myself hoping that the notes section would be expanded to devote more detail on when to use a >technique, when not to, how to set it up or when to recognize an appropriate opening for a specific attack. Perhaps given that "Muay Thai: >A Living Legacy" is envisioned on being the first of three volumes it is reasonable to overlook this deficiency. > >Suggestions for Subsequent Editions of this Volume: Some readers not previously familiar with Muay Thai might not understand Muay >Thai form from the pictures and text displayed but may need additional explanations or hints in order to grasp the techniques. I would like >to suggest the authors consider, where appropriate, use of a few graphical devices in order to further clarify fine points of Thai technique >that may otherwise be difficult to see. This includes: > >- Use of graphical arrows to depict body motion such as hip and shoulder torque >- Use of detailed or inset photographs to show a close up of a fine point >- Use of floor tape or other diagrams to provide a point of reference for footwork > >Suggestions for Additional Volumes: >- More information on when to use a technique and when not to >- More information on defensive technique as well as strategy >- Common mistakes and their consequences >- How to hold and feed focus mitts and Thai pads >- Training combinations >- In-depth discussion of regional sub-systems (Muay Lopbury, Muay Pra Nakorn, Muay Chaiya, Muay Korat, Muay Boran) surrounding >and within Muay Thai. The works of Don Dreger would be useful to examine for examples of documenting different systems. >- Profiles of prominent master teachers within contemporary Muay Thai >- Analysis of a single technique as taught by several different master teachers: Understand why they do it the way they do >- More on Krabi-Krabong. The late Ajarn Sumai wrote a manual on Krabi-Krabong in Thai that has never been translated. This would be an >invaluable reference for those interested in Thai weaponry. > >Summary: "Muay Thai: A Living Legacy" succeeds beautifully in explaining the soul of Muay Thai to a western audience. I recommend >this book to any person serious about understanding the art of Muay Thai and intend to make it required reading in my own classes. I also >look forward to any subsequent volumes that are produced in what I understand may be a series of books. --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 15:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] just fyi... Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Forwarding... I send supplement to your Martial Arts FAQ: ************************************************ Combat Kalaki Arcanis An eclectic, fairly new Martial Art System. Combat Kalaki is founded by Jan Nycek in 1998 in Olesnica near Wroclaw (Poland). A combination of Kalaki Arcanis, Doce Pares, Aiki Jitsu, BAS-3 (system for special forces of army and police), Boxing and Kickboxing. Since the Combat Kalaki by definition is for self defense. The training is for practical usage in the every day reality. Polska Federacja Combat Kalaki (Polish Federation of Combat Kalaki) exists from only just some years but it noted down already on one's account many successes. Its competitors are medallists of World's Championships World Eskrima Kali Arnis Federation on Cebu (2000), World's Championships Doce Pares in Los Angeles (2001) and Europe's Championships World Eskrima Kali Arnis Federation in Bristol (2001). --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest