Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 01:56:03 -0700 (PDT) From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #203 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sender: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Inay (1944-2000). http://InayanEskrima.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Seminar with Lahong Guro Johan Skalberg (Michael Kautz) 2. true indigenous art (Patrick Davies) 3. Video Review (ABurrese@aol.com) 4. RE: true indigenous art (Mike Casto) 5. Dislocation (kalkiusa@netscape.net) 6. How hard can that be? (Marc Denny) 7. West Coast Doce Pares Federation (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Kautz.Kraft@t-online.de (Michael Kautz) To: Date: 10 Jun 2002 10:56 GMT Subject: [Eskrima] Seminar with Lahong Guro Johan Skalberg Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi friends and readers, here are the details of an interesting seminar in Karlsruhe, Southern germany: Lahong Guro Johan Skalberg from Sweden will be there on the 6th and 7th of July for a seminar, the only one in Southern Germany. Johan is President of the International Kali/Arnis/Eskrima Federation IKAEF), Instructor in Modern Arnis, Kali Sikaran, Inayan Eskrima and Ju-Jutsu, he created the Suntukan Stick Fighting System too. He was World Champion and twice European Champion in Full contact stick fighting. Also he is well known in Europe for teaching Special Police Forces in realistic Self Defense. You can see him on the last video tapes with Suro Mike. The seminar is open for all styles! One day 30 $, two days 50 $ Contact Timm Blaschke for more details: timm.blaschke@planet-interkom.de or have a look in the web on our german homepage: www.ModerneSelbstverteidigung.de Have Fun and CU there Michael Kautz Polizeisportverein Karlsruhe (Police Sports Club) Southwest Germany -- :>) Auf Viren überprüft durch Norton AntiVirus 2002 --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Patrick Davies To: "'eskrima@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 12:06:53 +0100 Subject: [Eskrima] true indigenous art Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I appreciate Al Sardinas' exuberance and thrill he gets from his art, but I ask if there can really ever be a truly indigenous art (without any slant on anyones style). Apart from the odd tribe in the amazon [no! not the dot com one] outside influence must have played a part in every arts development - except maybe those ones that are now extinct. So can the claim that an art is purely indigenous ring true and is it really relevant. Pat Davies --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 10:38:43 -0400 From: ABurrese@aol.com To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Video Review Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I just added a review of Restraint and Control Strategies with Loren Christensen to my website. You can check it out at: http://www.burrese.com/Reviews/Restraint_Control.html Yours in Training, Alain Burrese www.burrese.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:32:46 -0500 From: Mike Casto Subject: RE: [Eskrima] true indigenous art To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I'm not sure that *any* art can claim to be purely indigenous (unless, by indigenous, one means "to a specific region"). Because for a martial art to have developed, there *must* have been someone to fight. Whoever they fought would have had some impact on the development of their martial art. If, by "indigenous", we are referring to a certain geographical region then then I suppose it's possible if 2 tribes from a region never fought anyone except each other then the fighting methods they developed could be considered indigenous to that region ... but I would guess that this would be highly unlikely. At this point in history, though, the odds of finding a "pure" martial art are so slim as to approach the point of impossibility. IMHO ... Mike -----Original Message----- From: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net [mailto:eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net]On Behalf Of Patrick Davies Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 6:07 AM To: 'eskrima@martialartsresource.net' Subject: [Eskrima] true indigenous art I appreciate Al Sardinas' exuberance and thrill he gets from his art, but I ask if there can really ever be a truly indigenous art (without any slant on anyones style). Apart from the odd tribe in the amazon [no! not the dot com one] outside influence must have played a part in every arts development - except maybe those ones that are now extinct. So can the claim that an art is purely indigenous ring true and is it really relevant. Pat Davies _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:20:09 -0400 From: kalkiusa@netscape.net To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Dislocation Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Friendly advice: see a good orthopedic specialist to determine whether or not any ligaments have been torn. Before thinking of exercise, think of not insulting the injury. It is very likely that anything that you do now will increase the swelling = slow the healing. My main concern right now would be: "Don't insult the injury." You may be certain that the finger is not broken ... are you certain that no ligaments were torn? __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Marc Denny" To: Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 12:41:16 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] How hard can that be? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Woof All: Steve wrote: > Hi All, > > I usually tell beginners that footwork is used for 2 main purposes (for simplicity). It is used to put you in the safest possible place in relation to your opponent and to transport the weapons to the target. I usually go on to remind them that they learned how to walk long before they met me, now they just need to learn to do it a little more efficiently. > > A good footwork tip is to have the student worry less about his feet and more about the position of his shoulders in relation to the target. If he tries to move his shoulders into position, his feet will (usually) do what they have to to get there. It is also good to explain that things like cross stepping are, in most cases, transitional moves and are generally not "posed". Another good tip is to teach hands and feet separately as in Silat. This makes it much less confusing in the beginning stages. > > This is just general stuff. The fine tuning comes later so as to avoid overload. Footwork plays a VERY important role in DBMA. I had not thought about the point of the position of the shoulders in this regard and will be taking a look at it. Thank you. Concerning teaching hands and feet separately: I was, and am, emphatic on the importance of combining stick and footwork-- even the seemingly simple material presented in the DBMA video "Combining Stick and Footwork" frustrates many people. When I first began teaching the "Attacking Blocks" material, I taught stick and footwork simultaneously. My idea was that people learn with good habits from the beginning. One step and one stick motion at the same time-- how hard could that be? Too hard for too many people apparently. So one time when I was teaching at Raw Dog's school, he took me aside and said "GM (Nick has a sense of humor), I teach beginners all the time and I have more success teaching this material by teaching feet and hands separately." So I tried it and it worked. The teaching progression is now as is seen on the "Attacking Blocks" video. Do note however that the material is not done until both stick and feet move together! Too many people impress themselves by waving the stick around yet cannot "transport the weapon(s) to the target." Woof, Guro Crafty --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:16:57 PDT Subject: [Eskrima] West Coast Doce Pares Federation Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Forwarded message: WEST COAST DOCE PARES FEDERATION Presents Grandmaster Cacoy Canete's last Bay Area 2002 seminar The World's only 12th Dan Red Belt Master Eskrimador Also Rev. Rupert Bisquera's retirement as President of the Organization June 22nd Saturday, 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. Hosted by: Milpitas Health & Fitness 1000 Jacklin Rd; Milpitas, Ca. 95035 (For Directions, call) Phone: 408-946-2151 Fee Registration at the door $55.00. Please honor the checks that you write and make it to "cash" or Rev. Rupert Bisquera. For more information: Call Rev.Rupert Bisquera @ 408-946-2825 or 408-938-2836 (work office). --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest