Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 03:26:39 -0500 Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #251 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Sender: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. List-Unsubscribe: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: Send Eskrima mailing list submissions to eskrima@martialartsresource.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net You can reach the person managing the list at eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Eskrima digest..." <<-------- The Inayan/Eskrima/Kali/Arnis/FMA mailing list -------->> Serving the Internet since June 1994. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). http://InayanEskrima.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. RE: GM Danny Guba + (eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net) 2. Palm or fist strikes (eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net) 3. Arnis in northern luzon (eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net) 4. Re: Yaw-Yan (eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: "'eskrima@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:06:59 +0100 From: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] RE: GM Danny Guba + Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sorry Bill, im not in the DP fold but I was under the impression there was quite a lively organisation. I know a couple of black belts and intend to host one instructor in the near future, so I'm a bit surprised that there is to be what I presume might be reference to a new organisation. What was the problem that you refer to? Bill Lowery: I had the pleasure of hosting Danny Guba for the first time in two years this past weekend, and as always he was a treat! We covered a lot of material and have begun to set in place the foundations for the expansion of Doce Pares (GB)....snip...Now that the problem limiting the growth of the DP (GB) has been eliminated, we can go on as see the organisation grow as it always should have. Pat Davies --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 02:34:25 -0700 (PDT) To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Palm or fist strikes Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Kumusta kayo, >Thanks everyone for replying to my email inquiries > about >stuff in the >R.P. I went to the Yaw Yan place in Pasay City because >their temple in >Shaw is closed for the moment. Has anyone here trained >in it? Could >anyone tell me about it? I would also like to know more about this art. Last time I checked, most of the Yaw-Yan stuff on the web had links to website. From the information I read though, those Yaw-Yan fighters are very powerful and impressive. I am really interested in learning more about this because I had never heard anything about this art before learning about it on the digest. >It's been interesting to note that most if not all >comments on palm strikes refer to palm heel strikes. >When I refer to palm strikes, palm heel is the least of >my interests. There are many ways of hitting and many >ways to do damage, not all of which has to be >superficial. When I think of striking using the palms, >it's oriented towards the center of the palm, not the >heel. This can be concussive or shearing. Concussive >palm strikes supposedly cause more internal damage. >There's also striking like "willow palm", a forward >strike with the hand held in position like what you'd >see in a Chinese broadsword or short staff exercise. The >fingers are off-line behind each other so that they >don't crash into each other on impact. Good for strikes to >the shoulder joint, e.g., to counter a hooking punch. >concussive palm can drop into the same area. >Palm heel orientation is more extended than the types >of strikes I was thinking about. Think "natural". > You bring up a good point. The palm heel is not the only open-hand weapon although thus far, most responses have referred to that. For me, other than the palm heel, I really like the knife edge. The knife edge seems natural to me because most of us are accustomed to treating a stick like a knife (i.e. simulating a blade) and treating a knife edge hand like a knife (i.e. keeping the knife edge of your hand always facing the opponent like you would with a real blade). Since I naturally just always train to keep that edge towards the opponent, I don't have to twist my wrist or anything to face the striking edge to the opponent - the strike surface is already facing the opponent. Another excellent weapon is the hammer fist. You can get a heck of a lot of mileage out of that strike. Another possible advantage is that you can defend yourself effectively using it but not appear to look like you know any martial arts, if you are attempting to hide your skill but not hold back on protecting yourself. At least witnesses reporting about your incident to the police won't have been awed by your grace and incriminate you because you didn't use any "Karate Kid" moves. Yahoo! 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Just a quick inquiry from a new member .I have been for some time trying to locate any arnis practioners in northern Luzon /Ilocos Norte the Phillipines .So far i have only managed to contact a sikarn practioner from my girlfriends village.Can anyone help with more info . ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here --__--__-- Message: 4 To: Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:14:43 -0400 From: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Yaw-Yan Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Erwin, I first started out training karate for a very short time until a thailander who went to the Philippines for college education rented a room during his stay in the Philippines. It turned out he was a champion in Muay thai. He took me in as a student and since then I was hooked on Muay thai. He left after a couple of years and I had to find a gym to train. I stumbled on Yaw-Yan and since then I'd like to think it is one of the better footfighting arts out there. The track record in the Philippines speaks for itself. Although kcikboxing is just the sports aspect of Yaw-Yan is it one of the most practical street fighting art as well. Master Nap used to tell me that the problem with the students is that once they learn how to footfight all they want to do is fight in the ring and forget about the weaponry and streetfight aspect of Yaw-Yan. My best friend and sparring partner in Yaw-Yan who is a Fil-Am fought and trained in shooto in Japan. One of the very few outsiders to be accepted in the gym because of his trainning in Yaw-Yan. If you do get a chance to train with Master Nap. Do so. I envy you because I now live in Florida and wish I could find time and money to go home to jusr train w/ Master again. Rj Marcaida --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest