Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 03:30:41 -0500 Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #266 - 3 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Sender: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. List-Unsubscribe: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: Send Eskrima mailing list submissions to eskrima@martialartsresource.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net You can reach the person managing the list at eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Eskrima digest..." <<-------- The Inayan/Eskrima/Kali/Arnis/FMA mailing list -------->> Serving the Internet since June 1994. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). http://InayanEskrima.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. A small point on the word ESCRIMA (eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net) 2. Lactic disposal (eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net) 3. FMA in Manila's schools (eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 09:18:17 +0000 From: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] A small point on the word ESCRIMA Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Mabuhay, A small point but not really wanting to interfere. The word ESCRIME still exists in the french language and means to fence - referring to sword play and practice. The following is an interesting site that deals with ancient spanish sword treatise that may be of interest  it deals with - Fencing and rapier instruction, practice, and display, also smallsword and western swordsmanship www.classicalfencing.com/articles/Spanish.shtml Galang, PG ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here --__--__-- Message: 2 To: 'eskrima digest' Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:16:25 +0100 From: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Lactic disposal Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Had a chat with a sports coach at a wedding reception the other night. His daughter recently witnessed an Australian team jumping in and out of ice baths after competition (Netball). Apparently it was in order to get rid of the lactic build up in the muscles. Recovery rate is very good as a result Anyone heard of this and any medical people able to explain it to me? Pat Davies --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 05:17:31 -0700 (PDT) To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] FMA in Manila's schools Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net The style of FMA taught in public and most private schools in the Philippines is either Modern Arnis or its alter-ego, Arnis Cruzada. I am speaking as a former layman or outsider to FMA. I think the reason why our younger generation and even our elders and peers won't touch FMA is because of the way it's portrayed and taught in schools. We are taught clickety-clack clack stick to stick bamboo fencing with karate like stances and movements. I clearly recall being taught basic Modern Arnis using the rattan stick in a "gedan barai uke" with "zenkutsu dachi" stance and stepping. Stiff and unrealistic. No offense but that's a fact I'm recounting from old memories. They didn't use those Japanese terms but I decided to take up karate a few years later and learned what those moves and stances were actually called. People here in the Philippines think FMA is stick to stick fencing because in school we are taught to hit the stick, not the opponent. We are never told that the stick is just a simulation of the blade. We are never shown knife fighting (of course, we were kids). And worse of all, we were not shown empty hands. We were just shown teachers moving like karate guys wearing karate imitation gi-like uniforms in red and blue. And those few who wore tacky white undershirts and badly fitting traditional red pants didn't help any. Just imagine for example an American martial art where its proponents all wore hillbilly costumes and stank really bad? I don't think you Americans would train in such a "stupid art" yourselves, right? Things changed of course after I read Dan Inosanto's book and PG Edgar Sulite's books and saw stuff from Ilustrisimo, Pekiti Tirsia, Lameco, etc. ===== Earn $$ just by receiving and reading email! http://www.resource-a-day.net/member/index.cgi?Brandon96 Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest