Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 03:02:06 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #309 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Inay (1944-2000). http://InayanEskrima.com/index.cfm See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Sulite ? (Ray Terry) 2. Jay de Leon IKF letter (Kelly Worden) 3. Re:Hock's book (Beungood@aol.com) 4. Diana Lee Inosanto (ydma1796) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] Sulite ? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Again, the disciple of the late Edgar Sulite are in disarray because his > widow has named a successor whom some seniors cannot accept. Who is the person named as Guro Sulite's successor??? Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 17:13:48 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: Kelly Worden Subject: [Eskrima] Jay de Leon IKF letter Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Jay de Leon, Just a brief reply to your last post. Sadly I really don't have time to break down each area of you're clarifications, but I'll give it a shot. You have every right to be saddened by the passing of Professor Presas, as do all the practitioners of FMA worldwide. Sorry you didn't feel the need to be close with Remy, yet still consider yourself a Modern Arnis practitioner. I would venture to say in any martial arts circle including yours, if you are not active or in direct contact with the Grandmaster of the system you wouldn't be counted as such. You're agenda is of course to be counted as a voice or a concerned individual about the safe path of Modern Arnis and it's future. Again if you are inactive in the propagation of Modern Arnis, few will care about your views, simple as that. You have an interesting way of bringing to light and pointing you're finger at anyone who cared enough to be with Professor Presas in his final months, days, and hours. According to you, we are all "part of a procession of inheritors at his deathbed asking for his final blessing." I would say that is a negative agenda based statement to somehow make people believe every person spending time with Remy Presas wanted or needed final blessing to continue on with their work or Modern Arnis training. Roland Dantes stayed at my home at Professor's request for over a month and together we traveled weekly to spend time with Professor. Are you including Roland Dantes as part of the "procession of deathbed inheritors?" Many students and friends came because Professor asked them to come, did he not call you? Probably Not! NARAPHIL? You are right, sordid side! NARAPHIL was a direct insult to Remy Presas! Who cares, you brought it up as a point of reference, all you're personal explanations aside, insult is the truth, weather you like it or not! Jay de Leon, do some homework, my connection with Professor Presas is well documented, I received "datu" status directly from Remy in 1988, the first American to be recognized and promoted to that rank or status. Thru the years we had disagreements but at no time did Remy Presas ever not recognize my commitment or contribution to Modern Arnis. At no time have I ever claimed successor ship of Modern Arnis, self-anointed or otherwise! Just you're statement alone is off base and out of line, first you insult and then you apologize, so hey, SHAME ON YOU! Do your homework, or mind your own business. Since you brought the self-anointed issue up, Remy Presas Jr. mentioned to me your website states you are a Grandmaster. Did you inherit that title and from who, or is it "self-anointed?" If you are truly a Grandmaster, it would seem a great honor for me to be a center of attention for you to concern yourself with my efforts in Modern Arnis. It would also seem like a negative issue for you "Grandmaster de Leon" to get involved in Modern Arnis politics if you have your own system to attend to. If the shoe fits wear it! The terms "loyalists, renegades, and coalition were direct quotes from Dan Anderson's IKF article." I agree to that fact, you stepped out of line with the addition of the agenda motivated slam of "alphabet soup coalition", I oversee the World Modern Arnis Coalition with the Presas Family's blessing. I still contend if my prior stated colleagues and brothers in the art of Modern Arnis make us "alphabet soup" in you're eyes, well you do not just insult me you insult each one of them, which includes Dantes, Dagooc, Inocalla, and others, is that you're intent? And so I will close with these unsolicited words of advice, put your "official occasion" full Modern Arnis uniform back in the closet, (apparently lacking official certification). Stop making public statements about me or anyone in the WMA Coalition being the "true inheritor" or "inheritor Coalition". Get off the negative low road you apparently travel for personal glory or public recognition and write your own articles to share your great depth of insight into FMA. Being a grandmaster and all that goes with that title, it would be a more positive direction for your efforts, fill the void GM de Leon. Good luck with "your" system. Modern Arnis has several Internet Forums, if you would like to banter about on this subject I suggest "you" take it there, or reply directly to me. As mentioned in my last post "Modern Arnis will clean it's own closets!" Ray Terry and the e-digest group, thank you for allowing this brief discussion to take place. Sorry for disrupting your forum with political issues better expressed and discussed on Modern Arnis forums. Further replies from me will only be addressed there among Modern Arnis practitioners. Sincerely, Kelly S. Worden Tacoma, Washington wordenk@earthlink.net 253-564-2867 --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Beungood@aol.com Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:48:13 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re:Hock's book Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 9/3/02 5:15:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > Which knife book - he has three. Speaking in general, Hock is very > knowledgeable and straightforward. They are full of practical applications, > It is a book with a green cover, I think it's the Knife Fighting Encyclopedia. --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:02:09 -0700 (PDT) From: ydma1796 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Diana Lee Inosanto Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hey all, Just figured I pass along an e-mail I received James (ydma17960 "Just letting you know I will be making a guest appearance on the early edition of “The Today Show in New York” on NBC. This will be Thursday, September 5th between 5am –7am. Also, highlighted on this show is the front cover I did for The first woman’s martial arts magazine “SELF-DEFENSE.” “BLACK BELT” is presenting this new magazine. The Fall 2002 edition of “SELF-DEFENSE” hits the newsstands starting in September. The magazine showcases inspiring women and their expertise on woman’s self-defense, martial arts, and more. From fitness and nutrition to smart parenting our children about safety on the streets, you’ll find this magazine is one of a kind. You can see the front cover on my web site splash page at: www.dianaleeinosanto.com My best to all of you, Diana Lee Inosanto --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest