Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:18:08 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #346 - 3 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Help: Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: Send Eskrima mailing list submissions to eskrima@martialartsresource.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net You can reach the person managing the list at eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Eskrima digest..." <<-------- The Inayan/Eskrima/Kali/Arnis/FMA mailing list -------->> Serving the Internet since June 1994. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). http://InayanEskrima.com/index.cfm See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. GGM Pedoy (Ray Terry) 2. Hawaii (Ray Terry) 3. Wushu bets revive R.P.'s Asiad medal bid (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 15:23:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] GGM Pedoy Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Interview with Derobio's GreatGrandMaster Braulio Pedoy, from 1977. (FAH = Fighting Arts of Hawaii) FAH: Where in the Philippines did you come from? PEDOY: I came from Ormoc, Leyte. FAH: When did you come to Hawaii? PEDOY: I arrived in 1924. My destination was Olaa Plantation on the Big Island. FAH: Why did you come to Hawaii? PEDOY: My friend told me, "We go Hawaii. Hawaii is good -- easy to make money." The temptation was in my mind, a conflict already with what my Master told me on how I should live my life. FAH: So you worked the plantations all your life? PEDOY: No, I spent many years as a fisherman, and during the WWII, I was a security guard for the Army. After that, I worked 11 years for Gaspro. >From that time until now, I haven't worked. That is my history from the time I came to Hawaii. But if you go to my history in the Philippines, there is a whole different story to tell. I went from island to island, like my Master told me, to further my studies in Escrima. In every village, there are different movements and counters. Kali has very different movements than Derobio. FAH: How long did you go from island to island? PEDOY: Over three years. FAH: How old were you when you did this? PEDOY: I was 17 years old. I was 20 when I decided to go to Hawaii. FAH: How long had you been training with your Master? PEDOY: Since I was 6 years old until I was 17. And from there I went island to island. First, however, my Master told me to study about the ocean, and of the philosophy of the sea. If you were to climb to the top of a tree and look into the ocean, you would see different shades of blue. The darker the blue, the deeper the water. In the lighter areas it is shallow, rough, and noisy. Many are at this level, close-minded people with conflicting goals in life who tend to use their mouths loosely. We must look towards the deeper water where it is calm and peaceful, where your morals run deep and only pure thoughts come out of your mouth. Thus, you can observe for yourself what is shallow and what is deep. In every one of us the Lord provided seven gateways for us to observe the environment. Each of us has two eyes, two ears, two nostrils, and a mouth. Only the mouth can get us into serious trouble with our fellow man -- thus, one should be very careful in what one says. Give good advice, don't lie, and never gossip, for it might not be true. Then you can get your humbleness from that. FAH: When you came to Hawaii, were you a Master already? PEDOY: Yes, I had developed already. I had been all over the Philippine Islands. FAH: How did you meet your Master? PEDOY: My father was a very mean person. Everyday he gave me lickings. So, at 6 years of age, I ran away. I went along the main trail until I came to a fork in it; one way to the big city, the other to the mountains. If I was to go to town, my father might still yet catch me, so I went the other way. I just walked with no destination. I just walked, walked, and walked. For 4 days, I roamed the forest. Then I saw a small shack where someone had, at one time or another, built a fire. So I sat down and waited, for I thought to myself, someone lives in this place, thank God. Later in the evening, that man came back, and he was very surprised to see me. He asked how I had come to this place, and I pointed to the pass in the mountains I had come through. He said, "I know other people come from the opposite way to this place, but no one can pass through your way -- it's too dangerous." FAH: What was so dangerous about the pass? PEDOY: There were plenty of poisonous snakes that get bigger than men. But at the time, I didn't see any snakes during the day and at night I climbed high into the branches of the trees. My Master told me, "God guided you to me. He wanted you to learn how to defend yourself -- so he brought you to me, for that is the talent I have to give to you." FAH: What was your Master doing in this out-of-the way place? PEDOY: My Master was a wanted man with a large reward offered for him. That's why he hid deep in the forest. He was a general during the revolution against the Spanish. and again later during the Filipino-American War. When the United States won and the Filipinos were required by law to salute the American flag, he would not. To the Filipino flag, he would salute, but to no other country's flag he would show respect. Too many of his men had died fighting for independence in the battlefields. That's why the authorities put him in jail. That man had great powers -- no jail could hold him. The guards were there, yet no one saw him escape. FAH: And he went to the mountains? PEDOY: Yes, he ran away to the forest. He was a man of great powers, powers he received from heaven through his prayers. Snakes wouldn't go near him, animals wouldn't eat the rice he planted. There was plenty of wild boars, deer, and birds. But nothing touched his rice. We wouldn't chase them away either, just leave them alone. And when it was time to harvest, we would thank the Lord for our food. See what power's he had? FAH: So when you were 17, you left your Master? PEDOY: Yes, but before I was to return to civilization, I was told to study the movements of the trees and of the ocean, to observe carefully the motions of the branches in the wind. You must be able to get away from the force of the blow and return to an equal, balanced position. Thus, to be an Escrimador you have to carefully study the land and sea while also searching for those unusual things in nature God has created. After 11 years, I went back to my father's place. FAH: Did your father recognize you after 11 years? PEDOY: Yes, he tried to hit me with a stick. I just took it away. I didn't hit him back. He asked me how I survived all these years. I told him I found a man and we lived together in the forest. I stayed two or three weeks with my father, then I went away. I didn't tell him that I was going from island to island to practice, I just left. He never learned anything of what I had learned. FAH: Didn't you regret leaving your Master after 11 years? PEDOY: My Master told me that this was no place for me to live all of my life. He said I would have to leave after my examination. FAH: What examination? PEDOY: My final test to become Master of the Derobio system of Escrima. Each of us had two sharp bolo knives. We were to fight in actual combat. My Master told me, "If you can kill me, kill me. I in turn will try my best to kill you. If either of us gets wounded badly, the other has to kill him because there is no doctor, we would only suffer. So better defend yourself well, or else." Before the examination, I prayed for days, asking my Lord Jesus Christ, to protect me. The battle was long and tiring; each of us used our best fakes and counters. When it was over, he was unhurt, whereas I suffered cuts on my hands and face. But only the tip of his bolos cut me, not deep enough that I let down my defense. FAH: When was the first time anyone knew you were a Master in Escrima? PEDOY: Oh, I never showed anyone I knew Escrima. But when there was trouble, my neighbors found out I knew how to defend myself. Especially with newly-arrived Filipinos, when there was trouble, out came the knife. When they would use it, I would take it away. That's how they know I know Escrima. But I never taught anybody before, only Eddie (his son). FAH: And that was the first time you taught? PEDOY: Yes, the first person I taught was my son, and only after he had taken Karate. One time, however, some officers of the Honolulu Police Department asked to learn. I showed them how easy it was for me to hit them with my sticks. Soon they stopped coming over. Do you know why I started training Eddie? Because I thought to myself about the Chinese martial art of Kung Fu, about the Japanese with their Judo and Karate, and about the Americans with their boxing. I know the Filipino community in Hawaii has some good Escrimadors, but they never show or share their talent. That's why I began teaching Eddie -- so that we could preserve a valuable part of the Filipino culture and heritage, and to give an opportunity to the younger Filipinos who don't have Escrimadors in their families a chance to learn Escrima, thereby increasing their pride in themselves and their heritage. I then told Eddie to find instructors and to teach them well. Teach them to pray, because that is also an important part of being an Escrimador. And when you get your instructors ready, open a public Filipino Martial Arts School. That is how our school began over five years ago, when we first opened in Waipahu. Today I have nine full instructors under my son, who of course is my chief instructor. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 15:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] Hawaii Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I'll be visiting Hawaii shortly and should hook up with the Derobio folks there. Any others interested in getting together? Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 07:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] Wushu bets revive R.P.'s Asiad medal bid Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Wushu bets revive R.P.'s Asiad medal bid Wushu bets on Thursday displayed their top form and revived the Philippines' hopes of increasing its medal haul at the 14th Asian Games. The preliminary rounds of the san shou, changquan and tajiquan events saw Filipino entries land on the upper half of the standings, and lessened the sting of defeats absorbed by three potential taekwondo jin medalists. May Lim finished fifth in the preliminary round of the tajiquan event with 28.15 points, just .35 adrift of the leader. Arvin Ting (27.90 pts.) and Mark Rosales (27.60) finished third and eighth, respectively after the first preliminary round of the changquan event. In san shou, Marvin Sicomen beat Utkir Hudayarov of Kyrgyztan, 2-1, in the -56kg. division, while Rexel Nganhayna stopped Indonesian Edward Marentek, 2-0, in the -56kg. division. Wushu is an ancient form of Chiense martial art and is divided into two major disciplines, Taolu and Sanshou. Taolu can be divided into barehanded exercises, apparatus practice, prearranged fights and group exercises. Barehanded exercises include styles such as Changquan (long-range boxing), Nanquan (southern-style boxing), Taijiquan (Taiji Boxing), and Xinyiquan (Form and will boxing), among others. Sydney Olympians Eva Marie Ditan and Roberto Cruz, along with Alexander Briones, were eliminated early and gave the Philippines' campaign in taekwondo a poor start. Finweight Ditan breezed past the first round with a 2-0 victory over Bhutan's Kinley Bidha but lost to China's Ying Wang, 0-3, in the next phase. Briones likewise won his first match in the lightweight division, 12-3, against Niranjan Shrestha of Nepal, only to lose to Yesbol Yerden of Kazakhstan 4-6 in the next round. Cruz was not as fortunate, as he crashed out of contention in his first match against Matin Boboev of Tajikistan.The match ended tied at 9-9, but a countback resulted in Cruz's defeat. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest