Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 03:01:51 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #375 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Inay (1944-2000). http://InayanEskrima.com/index.cfm See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Vol 9 #374 "FMA's of only injuring to a degree" (Bart Hubbard) 2. RE: Stick quality (Carlo Arellano) 3. Where is everyone? (bill m) 4. Re: Where is everyone? (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:56:44 -0500 From: "Bart Hubbard" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Vol 9 #374 "FMA's of only injuring to a degree" Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Kenjo, I have to agree with Kim in that the knife only comes open when circumstances dictate and that the defender chooses how far the defender will go depending again on the circumstances. Fighting of any sort needs to be adaptable. Any sort of mandate that says "once the balisong is open, someone must die!" is nonsense. Most balisong wielding people don't even have any knife training. And FMA is as I see it, a martial art of survival and practicality. In some situations a brandish can end the problem and then there's no need to go further. In your system, if the opponent backs down, do you still have to kill him? If so then how many of your guys are in jail? Like I said before FMA is if nothing else, practical. This time practicality sides with Kim. Bart Hubbard ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >Message: 3 >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:56:34 -0800 (PST) >From: ken jo >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [Eskrima] (no subject) >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > >"..We were taught that the balisong only comes open >when circumstances dictate; this is in accordance with >the principle in the FMA's of only injuring to a >degree. The defender chooses how far he/she will go >based upon the situation.. Kim Satterfield" > >Sir, > >With all due respect, I am not aware that there is >such a principle (injuring to a degree) in the FMAs.. >ever since, i have been conditioned that in combat >once a balisong is opened the main purpose is to use >it - to stab, to slash, "to finish the job" (the >equivalent of the "pulverizing attack" in empty >hands..) could you please elaborate on this as this >principle is similar to the strategy or tactic (?) of >"calibrated response" that i am currently exploring? > >kenjo --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Carlo Arellano To: "'eskrima@martialartsresource.net'" Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:19:09 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Stick quality Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net The quality of a rattan stick depends not on thickness but density. Although you generally want a stick about 1" in diameter you must pick a stick with good density. If you tap a stick and it has a relatively hollow sound, it is not a good stick. By hollow I mean a dull, muffled and low pitched sound, if the sound is higher pitched and resonates that is a dense stick. you can also test density by swinging a stick around to feel the heft. A fairly thick stick with good density is what you need. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "bill m" To: Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:14:41 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Where is everyone? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Scrolling through a backlog of email, I came across this question on the digest: "Where is everyone?" and the questioner then listed several instructors who normally make regular posts to ED. I can't speak for everyone, but you'll notice that two of the normally most verbose members of this list (myself and Marc Denny) were both silenced about the same time and I suspect for the same reason. He and I have kids about the same age and I know that once my own kid started walking (and running and climbing and trying to ride my dogs like horses) I have had almost no free time to do anything once I get home from work, let alone to write posts for the digest. My guess is that Marc is suffering the same fate. Hopefully things will improve as my son gets older, (every time I say this to a more experienced dad they always turn away snickering). For the near future though, my posting will be sporadic. In the meantime, you can read an article for upcoming Fall issue of the PTI newsletter at: http://www.pekiti-tirsia.com/yourknife.htm It is called "Your Knife's Favorite Fighting Style" and is based on the premise that different categories of knives require different techniques and that "one size fits all" doesn't work for knife fighting. I am looking to submit this article to a magazine once I have the photos done, so any suggestions on improving the article from digest members would be greatly appreciated. Please feel free to discuss the article on the digest, but if you must post a quote from it, please keep the section quoted brief and for review purposes (some magazines are put off from publishing an article if it is posted on the web. I get around this because the web page the article is on is a hidden file and is temporary). Remember, the article is copyrighted, so posting sections of it longer than what is necessary for review purposes without my permission is prohibited by U.S. copyright law. Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath Email: tuhonbill@pekiti-tirsia.com PTI website: http://www.pekiti-tirsia.com/ --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Where is everyone? To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:26:20 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > I can't speak for everyone, but you'll notice that two of the normally most > verbose members of this list (myself and Marc Denny) were both silenced > about the same time and I suspect for the same reason. He and I have kids > about the same age and I know that once my own kid started walking (and > running and climbing and trying to ride my dogs like horses) I have had > almost no free time to do anything once I get home from work, let alone to > write posts for the digest. My guess is that Marc is suffering the same > fate. Ahhh, so we have uncovered a defense against your average accomplished FMAer. The Rugrat defense. Just send a couple dozen rugrats in to intercept them and the battle is all but over... :) Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest