Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:08:02 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #394 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Inay (1944-2000). http://InayanEskrima.com/index.cfm See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Danny Guba 3 part seminar (UK) (Bill Lowery) 2. Weight Loss (Khalkee@netscape.net) 3. Re Mikes comments (rocky pasiwk) 4. Vets Day books (Ray Terry) 5. Re Vol 9 #391- Why FMA Masters Aren't Rich or Are Poor Businessmen (Bart Hubbard) 6. Re: Vets Day (Braulio Agudelo) 7. DBMA Krabi Krabong Video (Terry Tippie) 8. Moderb Arnis Founded in 1957?? 1969?? (GatPuno@aol.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Bill Lowery" To: Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 02:52:54 -0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Danny Guba 3 part seminar (UK) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi All, Danny Guba will be returning to Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, next year for a three part seminar. 28th March - Three hour knife work course. 7-10pm £15 in advance 29th/30th March - Two day Spring Camp, covering all areas of the Doce Pares Multistyle Eskrima system. 11am-4pm both days. £40 in advance All three sessions = £50 in advance. For more details contact me on, 07985 582 159, LabanB@excite.com Bill Lowery --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:16:54 -0500 From: Khalkee@netscape.net To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Weight Loss Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net "any weight loss is accompanied by a muscle loss rather than fat loss." With much respect I say, it ain't necessarily so. What we lose is a function of how we cause (and manage) the loss. Briefly, an increase in activity of the sympathetic nervous system and all that goes with that favors the use of fat stores for energy during "challenges" to the body. "Active" weight loss taking advantage of this physiological fact will hit the fat stores immeediately. This is why it's not a good idea to take stimulant drugs or pharmaceuticals (caffeine anyone?) without jumping around for awhile :-) The fat released does not get used ... I digress. Simply put, to enhance the mobilization and utilization of fat for greater exertion/endurance and/or weight loss, have some caffeine (e.g., green tea, coffee, straight, nothing fancy) 30 minutes prior to starting time. If the body does not have the physio demands required to mobilize fat it will use its other glucose sources ... glycogen and protein. This can be a problem. Here's a solution (do I get paid here?:-) ... what's required are some anti-catabolic factors. Enter Arginine and Glutamine. We can all lose musclel after hefty exercise due to the natural progression of the body breaking some things down before repairing (building) itself. Glutamine and Arginine can stop this from happening. Just a couple of ideas worth exploring. Oversimplifed (sorry, time for me to get bizzy ovah heeyuh), but mebbe enuf to get some thinking started. For the person desiring to lose weight this simplifies into increasing fat mobilization while decreasing or eliminating muscle catabolism. It ain't difficult ... keep it simple. Have your largest meals earlier in the day. Assoc for Medical Prevention sez "Lunch/Dinner for Breakfast" and "Dinner/Supper for Lunch" ... "traditional" dinner/supper? I don't remember ... but if you're trying to lose fat don't eat after sundown. That simply increases fat stores since physiology shifts promote fat storage after dark, e.g., instead of glycogen storage in the case of carbohydrates ... excess fat just gets stored as fat. Be well. __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "rocky pasiwk" To: Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:10:24 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] Re Mikes comments Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Khalkee Wrote: I have heard this and that's why I was a little leery of it. I do however drink, about 3 times the recommended amount of water per do. >Nutrition: The high protein / low carb way has some >problems, for example ... increased potential for >kidney stones and gout. Mike Wrote: >2) The thyroid condition you described is unlikely. >One can go from >overactive thyroid to under active, but I have never >heard of thyroid swinging >back and forth spontaneously. My grammar probably was at fault here, this new Doc. took blood several times over close to a month, he says they have a scale or chart my which they measure your thyroid. He said that comparing it with blood test taken by my other doctor over the past year, shows that at times the reading is in the norm, and at other times its is low. >6) You said yourself that you can lose 50-75 lb easily. >How do you know that >your recent weight loss is not due to the diet you are >on? The Atkins diet >is very effective in losing weight, but there are other >reservation about >its effects on health. This is the reason for the concern from my reg. Doc and my cousin who is a Doc. ( out of state, which is why I don't see her ) I don't diet, I really don't believe in them. I do try to watch what I eat but, not because of weight, I just stay away from fried food and as much crap as I can, I am not big on sweets. I don't drink or smoke. I actually eat fairly well because I like good fresh foods. Yet my weight will fluctuate dramatically over the course of a year. Thanks for some of the info, and I will ask for more info and maybe furthure testing. Rocky Pasiwk Founder Cuentada de Mano Chief instructor Anciongs original Balintawak and Progressive Modern Arnis --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang), eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:12:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] Vets Day books Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >From msn.com... 10 Great Books About American War Heroes Some of the most absorbing and inspiring reading deals with Americans' experiences in wartime. Whether you're looking for a detailed recounting of important historical events; a heartfelt, highly personal recollection; or just a darned exciting story, here's a collection of volumes that will make you proud to be an American--on Memorial Day, D-day, Veterans Day, or any other day. 1. Flags of Our Fathers by James Bradley James Bradley, the son of one of the marines who raised the flag at Iwo Jima, tells the story behind the most famous photograph taken during World War II. Bradley reveals the men behind the legend and the pain of their ordeal in a work that explores the meaning of heroism. 2. War Letters: Extraordinary Correspondence from American Wars edited by Andrew Carroll Editor Carroll, founder of the Legacy Project, offers an extraordinary sampling of the more than 50,000 wartime letters he has received from veterans and their loved ones across the country. Spanning the American Civil War to Somalia and the Balkans, the collection features harrowing descriptions of combat; heartfelt expressions of love; and the last letters of soldiers who never returned. 3. Faith of My Fathers by John McCain Republican senator John McCain's autobiography focuses on his unique status as the son and grandson of decorated military heroes--a circumstance he rebelled against--and recounts his own horrific Vietnam experience. Shot down over Hanoi in 1967, McCain endured years of torture in POW camps under the North Vietnamese. The details of his ordeal make edge-of-your-seat reading. 4. A Code to Keep: The True Story of America's Longest-Held Civilian POW in Vietnam by Ernest C. Brace Ernest C. Brace's memoir chronicles the author's courage as a POW in North Vietnam. A former marine, Brace flew secret supply missions to Laos as part of a CIA operation. Captured and confined to a bamboo cage, the civilian pilot nevertheless attempted to live by the military Code of Conduct, escaping and being recaptured three times. A stirring, memorable story. 5. Band of Brothers: E Company, 506th Regiment, 101st Airborne from Normandy to Hitler's Eagle's Nest by Stephen E. Ambrose Stephen Ambrose presents the story of Easy Company, one of the toughest rifle companies in the Army during World War II, and its mission to capture Hitler's Eagle's Nest at Berchtesgaden. 6. Medal of Honor: Profiles of America's Military Heroes from the Civil War to the Present by Allen Mikaelian Mikaelian offers a stirring and patriotic look at 15 outstanding Congressional Medal of Honor winners and their amazing feats of bravery and daring. The book examines the winners' lives both before and after their awards were bestowed, and analyzes the meaning of courage. 7. Eye of the Storm by Robert Knox Sneden A Union Army private and mapmaker, Robert Knox Sneden witnessed many of the most famous battles of the Civil War. His scrapbooks and accompanying memoir, subsequently found in a Connecticut bank vault in 1994, offer firsthand accounts of the author's experiences in battle and as a prisoner at the infamous Andersonville prison camp. 8. Black Hawk Down: A Story of Modern War by Mark Bowden Author Mark Bowden offers an intense, up-close look at the October 1993 attempt by a U.S. Special Forces team to abduct two top lieutenants of a Somali warlord in Mogadishu, Somalia--a mission that would cost the lives of 18 American soldiers. Bowden's account, which attempts balance by offering each side's point of view, was adapted as an Academy Award-winning film. 9. Return with Honor by Scott O'Grady On June 2, 1995, U.S. Air Force captain Scott O'Grady was shot down in the skies over Bosnia. This volume recounts his amazing escape and harrowing six-day struggle for survival in a harsh landscape while evading the Bosnian Serbs who hunted him. A thrilling story of modern military adventure. 10. The Greatest Generation by Tom Brokaw In this powerful and moving tribute, NBC news anchor Tom Brokaw traces the experiences of American men and women who came of age during the Great Depression and World War II. This generation, united by common values and purpose, shaped the future of our country, and their stories of bravery and determination will inspire readers. --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:09:39 -0500 From: "Bart Hubbard" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Re Vol 9 #391- Why FMA Masters Aren't Rich or Are Poor Businessmen Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hey There, I thought I'd add some comments on this one. I don't know much about anting-anting and whether or not I believe in them. But different anting-anting have different rules, so no one anting-anting "experience" can define them across the board. And I sincerely doubt the financially poor FMA masters are universally cursed by an anting-anting. In my own experience when I went and trained in the Philippines I was often asked to pay "whatever I thought it was worth." The teachers were very polite and they didn't want to be commercialized. I think that sort of choice may keep some of the FMA masters poor as people won't pay them much or regularly except for an uncommon student here or there. Also when I went to try and teach on my own, I was confronted with many different forms and bureaucracies to wade through to find a facility and to find students. It was easier for me just to find a job and do it as a hobby. Another point is that if something is "underground" or illegal, and you charge money for it, then you have criminal liability as there is definite proof that you were profiting off of something outlawed. That's been the way the law has worked since the Roman Empire. I'm sure that situation added to a non-commercialistic martial culture when FMA were outlawed by the Spanish and the Japanese. It would have reprecussions to the present day. Many FMA teachers in the past were somewhat uneducated and lived in the forest (like the Hermit of Cebu). That may also have hampered their abilities in the predominantly "urban" business world. Additionally in the Philippines an eskrima teacher was constantly proving his skill and being challenged by other eskrimadors. If you made your living off of eskrima and that was your bread and butter, if you were defeated, you might lose a bunch of your students, and then your house, food etc. You can probably count on one hand the number of famous eskrimadors with no kids. Chances are they didn't want to risk the livelihood of their families on something that could be so fleeting, so they did "straight" work. I want to point out though that there are plenty of FMA masters that do quite well for themselves both in the Philippines and out. They have organizations and memberships and they don't lack for money. Success in business depends on the individual. We see the same sort of thing here in the US in Karate and Kung Fu schools. Some teachers are madly successfull and others are not so. Most I believe hover somewhere in between but closer to the bottom of the economic woodpile. Another point is similar here in the US and in the Philippines. It's a complete rarity to find guidance counselors or parents that would encourage their students or kids to grow up and be professional martial artists. We see MA schools and they're mostly side gigs. Professional Martial Artists are somewhat fringe characters in our society. The ones that do get looked up to are often also movie stars or cops, but they have some other aspect to them that brings mainstream acceptability. The rich Martial Artists tend to have some other side to them such as another traditional "career" like lawyer, teacher, etc. In summary, I think that many of the reasons that some FMA masters aren't rich are the same reasons that other people find difficulty in business. Business is tough, complicated and competitive. Those are my thoughts for what it's worth. Bart Hubbard --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:45:28 -0800 From: Braulio Agudelo Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Vets Day To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Let's not forget about our Filipino elders, US veterans of WWII still waiting to get their pay, many are dying off now in poverty... "Filipinos who served in the US Army during World War Two (the Philippines was then a colony) were granted US citizenship, creating a wave of migrants from the Philippines who now live in some of the poorest urban communities in the United States. All of them depend on government welfare and are denied the benefits given to other US Army veterans of the Second World War.", Pusod --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:59:00 -0800 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: Terry Tippie Subject: [Eskrima] DBMA Krabi Krabong Video Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Arlan, Crafty, et al., Nice job on the KK video. I just got my copy and watched it this weekend. As you know KK has been in the U.S. for more than 10 years now and hasn't received the attention it deserves. This video will help change that. The video itself has good coverage of single da and double da basics. It also covers how to use kicks when using a stick or blade. Finally, it strikes a workable balance between respects for Ajarn Sumai and the traditions of Muay Thai (thank you) on one hand and the reality of DBMA fighting on the other. To put it another way, you would have not gotten a lot of takers if you had put the wai kru up front as at Buddhai Sawan. Should be required reading IMO. Thanks, Terry Tippie Thai Boxing Assoc. of the USA --__--__-- Message: 8 From: GatPuno@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:30:56 EST To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Moderb Arnis Founded in 1957?? 1969?? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 11/11/02 6:02:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > Hi, > > 1957 is the official date that Remy referred to as the founding of Modern > Arnis > back in Negros. Remy used this date, because when I saw him in 1997, he > said: > "now Modern Anris turned 40" > > So Rocky was right. > > > > Hi Knuttel, Proffessor, was born on 1939, he is only 18 at that time, officially, Remy is studying to Venancio Bacon and Moncal on this time,. We both know Remy he said something but he does something else. I am an old member of Modern Arnis Federation of the Philippine from 1975 until I 1985. I was pretty sure he also forget that he documented this to his first book of Modern Arnis, but hey if that what you believed , hey who am I. I am just sharing everyone what I believed is the accurate date. If Remy founded this when he was 18 years old, may be not officially recognized until he re-founded in Manila. Anyway, be well, not to change to what you've been told. Like Remy make everyone believed to his desciple that each everyone of them is his No, 1 student and promoted the only highest rank. That why there so many claiming there are the GM now. I was offered that highest rank too, but I turned him down, becaused I dont know "Modern Arnis" what he has been teaching all along. I was a memeber and know the basic curricullum and history of Modern Arnis becaused I need to teach that in College, when I was teaching in the Philippines. But deep inside I dont know the rest of stuff in Modern Arnis, and what Proffessor actual goal for his groups and system, I tough is need to be heard from those people that wanted to know the accurate date of founding of their system. Sorry If I change it, Nor did respect, to Rocky or to others highest authority of Modern Arnis now in the worlds. Salamat, Gat Puno Abon "Garimot" Baet Laguna Arnis Federation International US Harimaw Buno Federation Hilot Reseach Center USA --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest