Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 03:01:51 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #404 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Inay (1944-2000). http://InayanEskrima.com/index.cfm See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Steve Lamde and Dave Fulton (Bill Lowery) 2. Re: Bahi (Kel620@aol.com) 3. Livistona rotundifolia (Ray Terry) 4. Bahi (Steven Drape) 5. Kamagong, was Hickory (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Bill Lowery" To: Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:08:43 -0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Steve Lamde and Dave Fulton Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Steve, Kamagong is indeed a species of Ebony wood. Hi Dave, Bahi is also know as Heart of the Palm. There are a couple of variations depending on where from within the Palm tree you take the wood. The very centre is extremely hard, with the next layer out being only somewhat lighter. My wood supplier is trying to arrange some for me. If I can help (and you ahve to bear in mind that as I will be sending the goodies out from the UK the price of postage will be higher than if you can arrange supplies from the US) drop me a line. Bill Lowery --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Kel620@aol.com Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 12:09:24 EST To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net CC: dhfulton@prodigy.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Bahi Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Coconut is a type of palm tree. I think I remember reading that Bahi comes from some other palm tree native to the Philippines. Kelvin In a message dated 11/23/2002 10:53:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > Hello! > > I am interested in sources of Bahi sticks. Does anyone know where I could > purchase Bahi sticks? I'm interested in a pair (28" long by 1" diameter) > and a staff (1" diameter by about 48" long). Also, my search for sources > of Bahi sticks, left me with a question about Bahi itself. Can anyone tell > me whether "Bahi" wood comes from Palm Trees or Coconut Trees? I've been > comparing pictures of wood from the Black Palm tree and the Coconut tree, > to the Bahi sticks that I've handled, and based upon the appearance of the > wood it seems that Bahi could possibly come from either tree. > > Thank you in advance for your assistance. > > Sincerely, > > Dave Fulton --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 09:53:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] Livistona rotundifolia Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Bahi = Livistona rotundifolia ??? Taxonomy Current Name: Livistona rotundifolia Authority: (Lam.) C. Mart. Family/Genus: Palmae - Livistona Synonym(s) Livistonia blancoi Merr. Common Names bulno, pam yawa, pam tan, pam chawa, taung-htan, bahi, woka, samir, serdang, java palm, footstool palm, anahaw palm, anahau. Wood Density (in Kg/m3) Low Medium High Moisture Content (%) Notes References - 880 - 15 - Prosea 5(3) p:333 Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 23:49:46 +0300 From: "Steven Drape" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Bahi Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I am interested in sources of Bahi sticks. Does anyone know where I could purchase Bahi sticks? I'm interested in a pair (28" long by 1" diameter) and a staff (1" diameter by about 48" long). Also, my search for sources of Bahi sticks, left me with a question about Bahi itself. Can anyone tell me whether "Bahi" wood comes from Palm Trees or Coconut Trees? I've been comparing pictures of wood from the Black Palm tree and the Coconut tree, to the Bahi sticks that I've handled, and based upon the appearance of the wood it seems that Bahi could possibly come from either tree. I don't know much about trees and such, but I have a number of sticks which I was told were bahi. They don't really seem like wood at all. They are more like an extremely dense vine. Bahi will tear you up with splinters if you do not get it on a lathe and smooth it out. As for where it comes from, all I have ever heard was the heart of a palm, but not which particular species. Really good bahi is now quite difficult to find. If anyone has a source of good quality wood, I'd like to hear about it. A good bahi stick will take on just about anything short of a steel pipe and come out on top. Steve --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 18:01:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] Kamagong, was Hickory Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > If anyone knows of anyone skilled in woodturning and carving I have a old > bahi dagger that I would like to duplicate in hickory. If you'd like to send > me an estimate I can be reached at: I have a nice larger piece of kamagong that I'd liked worked up into a keris or something similar, if anyone is good at working with such a hard wood. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest