Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 21:31:02 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #413 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Inay (1944-2000). http://InayanEskrima.com/index.cfm See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Push Daggers (Stephen Lamade) 2. Re: Secrets of the Samurai (bredfield) 3. Martin Diggins' Citizen Knife (jay de leon) 4. California Penal Code (Ray Terry) 5. Re: Banned wooden exports (Bill Lowery) 6. Re: punch dagger (T2J2M2@cs.com) 7. Jigoro Kano in North America (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Stephen Lamade" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 14:15:13 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Push Daggers Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net A lot of people like push daggers due to their concealability. I've seen a set of small push daggers that fit into a belt buckle. Their owner would pull both out at the same time use them as "extensions" while striking his opponent with his fists. The use of push daggers in this way is highly effective because you don't have to modify the striking art that you already know. One caveat: the handles of some push daggers on the market today are too thick to fit in your hands comfortably, i.e., you should be able to close your hand completely around the handle without feeling the handle "push back" against the inside of fingers. On the other hand, the butt should fit snugly against the edge of your palm so that the "hilt" doesn't mash your fingers when the tip makes contact with something hard. With respect to whether you can use your open hands to grab/push/slap with a push dagger: Our Kung-Fu association once sponsored a senior teacher from the PRC to come and lecture. This gentlemen always carried a variation of Xing Yi "needles" in his pockets: a piece of steel shaped like an upside down "T" with a finger ring perpendicular to the junture of the shaft and the bar. The bar was round to fit inside the fist but could be used as a hand load with an open-hand slap since the ring kept the device against his palm. With the fist closed the protruding shaft could be used similarly to a push dagger. Best, Steve Lamade San Miguel Eskrima _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:29:27 -0500 From: bredfield Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Secrets of the Samurai Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net This book is great, couldn't put it down, definitely buy it!! you will not be disappointed Bernard > ******Fyi... > > Secrets of the Samurai - hardcover, 483 pages, illustrated, explaining in > detail the weapons, techniques, principals and strategies of combat. > Originally $40, currently on sale at Barnes & Nobel for $10. Worth > picking up at that price. > > Ray Terry > rterry@idiom.com******** --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "jay de leon" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Cc: theclassic33@hotmail.com Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 16:42:26 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Martin Diggins' Citizen Knife Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I have had a Citizen for several years now, and it is one of my favorite knives while self-training with live blade. PRO : At the push dagger position, it is better than the usual push dagger because of the compact feel and the "full" handle. I can't imagine disarming anybody (stripping with your empty hands) of this weapon, unless you're prying it from his cold, already lifeless hand. It is also a cool-looking, well-manufactured and affordable knife. CON : Not meant for quick deployment and opening, if that is what you are after. Can anybody comment on the legality of push daggers? (I live in California.) Does anybody carry a push dagger as a daily carry? Jay de Leon _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:16:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] California Penal Code Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Can anybody comment on the legality of push daggers? (I live in > California.) Does anybody carry a push dagger as a daily carry? Calif Penal Code is online at http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html. Not sure about your basic push dagger, but given the use of the term "dagger" you might check section 12020 and the case law wrt dirks and daggers. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Bill Lowery" To: Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 18:27:34 -0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Banned wooden exports Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Guys, A little late to the fray! One of my wood suppliers can get me Indonesian Rosewood, which is prohibited from export. The Indonesian suppliers simply sell "artefacts" made from the requested wood whcih can then be fashioned into your items i.e. a plank of IR would be illegal to export. A plank of IR with two shallow channels cut into it is regarded as an item of art (honestly) and so is capable of being exported. So long as the piece of "art" is 1.5" x 3" by 28" long it is possible to be cut into two pieces, rounded and voila, a pair of fighting sticks. If you want Kamagong I am sure someone somewhere will ahve found a method to export it. Bill --__--__-- Message: 6 From: T2J2M2@cs.com Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 14:58:28 EST To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: punch dagger Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net "The Law of Self-Defence" by Andrew F. Branca is a good place to start. If you even think of carrying that knife, you should consider how the police, prosecutor, judge, and jury will look at that before you carry it anywhere. Using a knife is ALWAYS considered to be lethal force. Carrying that knife could be considered a felony. Arguing that you have been trained to use the knife would be counterproductive. --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 17:50:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] Jigoro Kano in North America Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Not fma related, but of possible interest... Jigoro Kano in North America By Joseph R. Svinth Although Jigoro Kano's influence on North American judo came mostly through students trained at the Kodokan, he personally visited both the United States and Canada on several occasions. The following is therefore a synopsis of those visits. Kano's first visit to the United States took place during the winter of 1912-1913. While passing through New York City on his way home from the 1912 Olympics, he gave a judo exhibition attended by local sportswriters. Later, the ship Kano was on stopped in Honolulu. While paying his respects to the Japanese consul, Kano met with Shigemi Teshima, who with Naomatsu Kanshige had established a judo club in Honolulu in March 1909. During the 1970s, signs Kano brushed for Teshima still hung with pride in Honolulu's Shunyokan Dojo. Kano's next American visit came in 1920. He reached San Francisco on June 24, 1920, and from there went to New York. Probably he spoke to both reporters and Japanese associations, but so far I have found nothing in print to substantiate this belief. After going to Europe to attend the Olympics, he returned to Japan via the United States. His port of entry was New York, and on December 23, 1920 he demonstrated his art at the New York Athletic Club. The New York Times said afterward that Kano and his partner, Ryoichi Taguchi, 5-dan, "went through a series of offensive and defensive movements . with an agility that drew frequent applause. Mr. Kano defined judo as the study of the maximum efficiency of the mind and body for the purpose of attack and defense." Kano revisited the US in 1932. While his main purpose was to promote Japan's bid for the 1940 Olympics, he also gave lectures. The title of his 1932 speech was probably "The Contribution of Jiudo to Education," as that was the title of his paper subsequently published in the Journal of Health and Physical Education. >From late July until the middle of August Kano was in California, where he attended the Olympic Games in Los Angeles. Once the Games were over, though, Kano took his own private tour of the Pacific Coast. His traveling companions included Ryoichi Taguchi and Eitaro Suzuki. The party reached Vancouver, British Columbia, on August 17, 1932. Among the people greeting them was Yoshitaka Mori, 1-dan. (Vancouver Dojo leader Shigetaka Sasaki was in Tokyo at the time, studying for his 3-dan ranking). The stay in Canada was only overnight, and the following afternoon Kano spoke to the Japanese Language Schoolteachers' Assembly of the Northwest in Tacoma. His theme, unsurprisingly, was the role of judo in education. Consul Kiyoshi Uchiyama also spoke during this lecture. The gist of his speech was that the Nisei [second-generation Japanese Americans] needed to learn what Japanese language schools taught if they were to be able to properly interpret Japan for the benefit of European Americans. On August 19, Kano gave a similar speech to the Japan Society of Seattle. This organization had been established in July 1923 and its mostly European American members included the chairman of the University of Washington's Asian languages department, a city judge, the city school superintendent, and the city librarian. Kano told this distinguished group that the Nisei must live up to high standards and expectations if they were to fulfill their duties as patriotic American citizens. "This mighty ocean," said Kano: is no longer is a dividing gulf. With the developing advancement of the lines of communication, year by year, the blue waters of the Pacific are rapidly becoming transformed into a connecting link that will eventually join us together in our common aim of world friendship and peace. Afterwards Kano showed some judo moves. His helpers included Seattle Dojo's George Maniwa and Kaimon Kudo. Said the Japanese-American Courier afterward, "Carefully and with the precision of a slow motion picture, Mr. Kano illustrated the science of Judo to his audience in such a manner that it was easy for everyone to understand." Immediately following the demonstration Kano attended a garden party hosted by Japanese consul Kiyoshi Uchiyama and then a dinner hosted by the Seattle Yudanshakai (black belt association). One presumes that at formal dinners such as this, the younger black belts did not engage in their usual after-dinner game of seeing who could eat the most bowls of rice. On August 20, Kano and Taguchi drove two hundred miles to Portland, Oregon. After Kano gave some speeches the two men sat for photographs with local judoka and their fathers. Then they drove back to Seattle. As Kano had another speech to give at the Nippon Kan (a still-extant community theater) that night, the speedometer probably eased past seventy miles per hour as their automobile raced past the stump farms lining the newly completed highway between Vancouver and Olympia. [FN1] At the Nippon Kan that evening, another Japanese visitor named Kyugoro Obata joined Kano on the platform. The secretary of Tokyo's Japanese-American Relations Committee, Obata told the mostly Japanese audience that education and scholarship would effectuate a better understanding between the US and Japan. For his part, Kano said that the Nisei "must first of all be taught to become genuine and good American citizens. The ideal of world peace and mankind's welfare must always be kept before them." Finally, said a Seattle community newspaper, "Both speakers frankly expressed the opinion, the Americans of Japanese ancestry could only fulfill their proper part in their country's national life by becoming genuine citizens." On August 21, Kano attended a Seattle judo tournament. "Originally the event had been scheduled for the Nippon Kan from 3 p.m.," explained the Japanese-American Courier, "but owing to the big sell-out of tickets throughout the Northwest, the change [to the larger Chamber of Commerce auditorium] was necessitated." After watching the matches, Kano approved some promotions, including a 2-dan ranking for Ken Kuniyuki, a future leader of Southern California's Nanka Yudanshakai. Finally, around 11:30 p.m., he and Taguchi boarded a train for San Francisco. >From San Francisco, Kano and Taguchi went to Yokohama via Honolulu. While in Honolulu, Kano took the time to visit the Hongwanji Japanese High School and pose for a photograph with its judoka. He also awarded the Hawaii Judo Association, which by then had ten member clubs, with a certificate of recognition. Dated November 15, 1932, the form was obviously signed in Tokyo and mailed rather than delivered on the spot. Kano passed through Seattle again in July 1936. During his speech on July 6, he told his audience that the spirit of judo was not a spirit of competition but a spirit of cooperation. He added that Japan wanted the Olympic Games because nations became more sympathetic toward one another through competing in sport. Said he, "If China understood Japan's intentions, they would try to cooperate in all matters. China is torn by internal wars. They misunderstand Japan's real intention." On July 7 Kano boarded a train and headed to British Columbia. Vancouver Dojo leader Shigetaka Sasaki greeted him at the station in Vancouver, and then accompanied Kano across Canada to New York City and Berlin. A photograph of their visit to Lake Louise in Banff can be found in the University of British Columbia archives and the cover of Glynn Leyshon's Judoka. In New York City on July 16, Kano held a press conference at the Hotel Astor. After the obligatory luncheon, Kano attended a judo exhibition given by the Jiu-Jitsu Club located at 114 W. 48th Street. His host was T. Shozo Kuwashima [FN2] and the Japanese-American Courier reported that "among the judoists were not a few Japanese and American women who have taken up the art." On his way back to Japan Kano visited with the Japanese community in Los Angeles. On October 23 he attended a dinner at the Kawafuku restaurant in Los Angeles. As the judoka who paid for the dinner included the professional wrestlers Kaimon Kudo and Shunichi Shikuma, the stories about Kano withholding promotions from professional wrestlers appear to owe more to postwar Olympic platitudes than fact. The next two days found Kano watching a judo tournament pitting a Washington State all-star team against a California all-star team. Promotions approved as a result of this tournament included a 3-dan ranking for the future US Judo Federation president Masato Tamura. Kano's last visit to North America came during his return to Japan from an Olympic meeting in Cairo in 1938. His first stop was in New York City, and on April 17, Kano and members of the New York Dojo demonstrated judo for reporters, using some Japanese American black belts as his models. As usual, Kano accompanied the demonstration with a speech about how thinking about judo had caused him to create his theories about maximum efficiency and mutual welfare. When a reporter asked him how he reconciled the drive to win with the need sometimes to submit to overwhelming force, he replied, "When yielding is the highest efficient used of energy, then yielding is judo." After the press conference, Kano went to the airport, where he caught a United Airlines DC-3 bound for Seattle via Chicago. On the evening of April 20, Kano ate dinner with members of the Seattle Yudanshakai at Seattle's Gyokko Ken restaurant. Afterwards the Seattle judo association held a promotional tournament at Washington Hall. Fife's Ryoichi Iwakiri received promotion to 3-dan while his fourteen-year old son George Makoto received promotion to 1-dan. [FN3] While some have claimed these as Kano's last promotions, other Northwestern players including the future US Judo Federation president Eiichi Koiwai were promoted during this tournament, and it seems petty to argue about who stood last in line. More importantly, Kano visited the Kido Kan Dojo in Vancouver, British Columbia on April 22 and probably promoted someone there before leaving. As for the impact of these visits on the young men who saw them, sixty years later Frank Moritsugu recalled Kano's visit to Vancouver for the Judo Ontario newsletter: [Stephen] Kamino-sensei did a quick phone-around in Kitsilano to get several of his students out of school that day and into dress clothes to rush downtown to wait outside the Vancouver dojo with other young judo people. As we waited, we were instructed in the technique of sai-kei-rei, an extremely low bow of respect, which we were to do when the great man arrived. The taxi drew up. Mr. Sasaki got out first, and then came this small man in a dark suit and coat with a brown hat. He didn't seem impressive at all until you got a good look at him. Then there he was: Jigoro Kano himself! Under that hat, he looked just like the man whose portrait adorned every judo dojo we'd ever visited. And on the barked command from Kamino-sensei we did our sai-kei-rei, not daring to peek until we straightened up again. A Note on Sources The chief sources for this article were interviews with Nisei judoka conducted by the author between 1996 and 1998, and microfilmed community newspapers such as the Great Northern Daily News, Japanese-American Courier, and North American Times (Seattle) and Japan Times (Tokyo). See also: Kano, Jigoro. "The Contribution of Jiudo to Education," Journal of Health and Physical Education, 3 (1932), 37-40, 58. -----. "Jiudo: The Japanese Art of Self Defence," Living Age, 314 (1922), 724-731. -----. "Olympic Games and Japan," Dai Nippon, 1936, 197-199. -----. "Principles of Judo and Their Applications to all Phases of Human Activity," unpublished lecture given at the Parnassus Society, Athens, Greece, on June 5, 1934, reprinted as "Principles of Judo" in Budokwai Quarterly Bulletin, April 1948, 37-42. Kano, Risei. "The Kodokan Judo" (Tokyo: The Kodokan, 1951) Maekawa, Mineo. "Jigoro Kano's Thoughts on Judo, with Special Reference to the Approach of Judo Thought during His Jujutsu Training Years," Bulletin of the Association for the Scientific Studies on Judo, Kodokan, Report V (1978), reprint from http://www.bstkd.com/kano1.htm. ----- and Hasegawa, Y. "Studies on Jigoro Kano: Significance of His Ideals on Physical Education and Judo," Bulletin of the Association for the Scientific Studies on Judo, Kodokan, Report II (1963); reprint from http://www.bstkd.com/jobo.1.htm. Matsudaira, Tsuneo. "Sports and Physical Training in Modern Japan," Transactions and Proceedings of the Japan Society, London, 8 (1907/1909), 120. Waterhouse, David, "Kano Jigoro and the Beginnings of the Judo Movement," Toronto, symposium, 1982, 169-178. Acknowledgments People who contributed information or stories included in this article included Howard Alexander, Richard Bowen, Jerry Dalien, Fujiko Tamura Gardner, Richard Hayes, Larry Kobayashi, Graham Noble, Teru Okawa, Kenji Okuda, Jim Onchi, Robert W. Smith, and David Waterhouse. The financial support of the Japanese American National Museum and the King County Landmarks and Heritage Program is also gratefully acknowledged. Footnotes FN1. I am well aware that during the 1930s the normal travel time on the Pacific Highway between Portland and Seattle was around five hours. Going that speed, however, would have made Kano late to his Seattle speech. And it is certain that Japanese Americans sometimes exceeded the posted speed limits. For example, in March 1920 the Seattle Star reported that a Japanese American named M. Yamato received a $100 fine for driving 65 miles per hour on the Pacific Highway near Kent, and by 1932 cars were much more powerful than they had been in 1920. FN2. Remembered today mostly for his book written with A.R. Welch (Judo: Forty-One Lessons in the Modern Science of Jiu-Jitsu, 1938), Kuwashima was born in Kagawa Prefecture in 1893. After studying judo at Tokyo Agricultural College, he emigrated to the United States in 1916. He taught judo in Stockton and other Northern California locations until the mid-1930s, when he got a job teaching judo in New York and New Jersey. Later he moved to Chicago, where he operated a judo club until a skin disease forced his retirement in 1945. Demonstrators shown in British versions of Kuwashima's book included Ted Mossom and Stan Bissdell. FN3. On page 16 of "The History of American Judo," Judo USA, 3:3 (Jul 1977), Dennis Helm of the US Judo Federation historical committee wrote: "Professor [Ryoichi] Iwakiri exhibited such skill that he received his First Dan by Professor Kano at the age of thirteen. At that age, he could defeat everyone in his class. Since his father would not promote him, the promotion came directly from Kano." As Ryoichi Iwakiri did not start judo in the United States until about age eighteen this statement evidently refers to this promotion of Iwakiri's son George Makoto in 1938. That said, I strongly doubt that either Iwakiri ever told anyone that they could defeat everyone in a club whose members included Masato Tamura, George Kawasaki, Sunji Dogen, Jack Ohashi, and all their brothers. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest