Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 03:01:51 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #425 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Inay (1944-2000). http://InayanEskrima.com/index.cfm See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Rocky (buddytripp@lungmen.org) 2. FMAmag (Kyud-Arnis Balite) 3. FMA practitoners who don't give a damn about the Philippines (Doug Marcaida) 4. New sticks on the market... (Kel620@aol.com) 5. Vol 9 #424 - Al Sardinas (Bart Hubbard) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 20:55:59 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Rocky Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > In stead of worrying about which is more deadly, I >feel its better to >worry about which is more effective in any given scenario >and use what is >most comfortable to you, punch, kick, slap, stab, slash, >or grapple when the >timing is right. > Begging for your life might be the right thing at the >right time!!!!! I'm only 45, but this is, in my opinion, a MAN talking. Just my little opinion. Buddy >Rocky > >-- __--__-- --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Kyud-Arnis Balite" To: Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 19:36:00 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] FMAmag Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net New Filipino Martial Arts magazine at the printers and coming out soon. See current issue http://www.filipinomag.com/ Just a heads up. They got 4 issues out this year. Hopefully 6 next year. Respectfully --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Doug Marcaida" To: Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 12:49:43 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] FMA practitoners who don't give a damn about the Philippines Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net "The true art of the Filipino Martial Arts can be found in the cultural dances, the plays, the farmers, the craftsmen, in the history books, etc. of the Philippines, the roots. Not strikes angles 1 to 12. Not disarms #1 to 12. Remove the roots and you will be mediocre, you will have a dead art. Embrace the roots and you will be exceptional."- Al -Sardinas If I may add to Al Sardinas response, If you have ever noticed the differences between Filipinos who were born and raised in the Philippines and other practitioners who learned it elsewhere, the fact of the matter is that you may have the moves, you may know the techniques, but there will always be something missing. Guro Dan Had once said to Guro Jun De Leon of Kali De Leon, that he has something other instructors and practitioners in the FMA who were not raised in the Philippines do not have, "you have the Culture" To fully understand the Filipino Arts is to undestand it's people, the poverty, the way we live, this all plays into the development of our art,the development of our mentality-The Filipino Martial Arts are a direct result of the need to survive. If you have been to the Philippines , you will see that we are survivalist. It is this menatality that keeps us alive, Fron this stems the terms "Laging Una"-always first, Bahala na basta hindi magpapatalo kahit kanino" - whatever happens -happens as long as we'll not loose to anyone, "gulangan kung gulangan"-dirty fighting...sure! Now does it really matter if you miss this one thing ? Is this going to make you any lesser of a skilled FMA practitioner? maybe it might maybe it might not, It all dependson the individual. I just wanted to point out the difference that gives us pinoys that certain mindset. To me, The Filipino Martial Arts is a mentality of fighting to survive...that we are the ones who walk away alive. The techniques, the skills..well you don't need to re-invent the wheel, all true martial arts figure out the same things anyway. It's just that in the Filipino Martial Arts we view things in terms of combat. And the true nature of combat is weaponry not emptyhands. it is the equalizer! That is why Tuhon Leo Gaje always says "come to where the flavor is, come to Kali country"- Don't just drink from any fountain, drink from the source. For those of you who train the Filipino Arts and don't give a damn about the Philippines, well it's a free country here in the USA, you are entitled to your opinions but you practice our art and don't have a sense of gratitude or respect toward the land where the art you are learning came from?-if you went to the Philippines you probably would have learned that we have a thing called "debt of gratitude"-pasalamat. Just an advice, keep it to yourself and don't let other Filipinos in your art hear about it unless you want to see if we give a damn about how you feel about our country from which you are learning the FMA. Gumagalang, Douglas Marcaida --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Kel620@aol.com Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 13:12:07 EST To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] New sticks on the market... Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://www.bladeart.com/production/toxic_toys/toxic_toys.htm#3037 --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 19:17:06 -0500 From: "Bart Hubbard" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Vol 9 #424 - Al Sardinas Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I just have one question - Bart, are you one of those people who don't give a damn about the Philippines? You can answer me off list if you like. Al, Thanks for giving me the option of going off list but I would rather answer publically. I am one of the people that cares about the Philippines. I'm half Filipino. My mother and my late father met while he was in the Peace Corps over there. They married when my mother came to the US a few years before I was born. She has worked as an immigration attorney and he as an attorney and later as a teacher. They both were involved in charitable causes in the Filipino Community in Sacramento, CA. I was brought up in that environment. I was taught not just to hold the Philippines dear, but to as you have said, value all cultures as having intrinsic beauty and worth. I have a lot of family over in the Philippines and I go back there about once every two to three years. I own land there and went to a year of high school in Mandaluyong City. I am also the webmaster for the ChildBright Foundation (www.childbright.org) which gives scholarships to economically disadvantaged students in the Philippines. What I meant in my post was that many people don't know or care much about the world except for the points with which they come in contact. People eat Italian, Chinese, and Mexican food and most couldn't tell you anything about those countries including their respective continents. This doesn't necessarily mean that these people are evil it means only that they're ignorant of some of the facets of our world. At least Patrick was being honest about his opinions. By the way, I should say that there are some FMA teachers out there that won't teach non-Filipinos. More than most cultures I believe that Filipino culture is accepting of other cultures, so this is thankfully an anomoly. But I have found, at least in my life, that there is some degree of prejudice everywhere. My Thoughts, Bart --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and http://MartialArtsResource.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest