Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 03:01:50 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #454 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Inay (1944-2000). http://SudludEskrima.com http://InayanEskrima.com/index.cfm See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Ketones (Khalkee@netscape.net) 2. The Water Toxin (Khalkee@netscape.net) 3. Re: (Beungood@aol.com) 4. Water Toxicity (Khalkee@netscape.net) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 15:47:23 -0500 From: Khalkee@netscape.net To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Ketones Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >About ketones - I got the info from a doctor who was writing on fasting. >Ketones, a product of fat burning, is in his view, toxic, so hence, a >toxin.   Yah, they are toxic when their production outpaces their clearance and/or the body HAS to use ketones for fuel instead of glucose. Like in the case of any metabolite out-of-balance, we get toxic conditions. Anything that causes toxicity, either from the outside (exogenous toxins) or from the inside as a metabolic by-product (endogenous) is a toxin. Doesn't matter where the fat is that winds up yielding the ketone bodies ... the fat is not actually the problem ... it's the condition(s) which cause the body to have to rely on fat to the point where ketone presence is out of balance with normal physiology. Even things that are good for us can cause toxicity (become toxins) in some conditions ... including water! __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 16:10:30 -0500 From: Khalkee@netscape.net To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] The Water Toxin Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net OK, to any nay-sayers . . . water toxicity is called hyponatremia (sodium/salt/electrolyte deficiency). Hyponatremia explained: Drinking too much water can dilute the sodium in your blood. When the concentration of sodium in the blood becomes dilute, osmosis causes increased movement of water from blood vessels (extracellular water) into surrounding tissues (interstitial and intracellular). This causes edema (swelling), and includes brain edema. The skull-encased brain can not tolerate as much swelling as other body tissues. When the brain swells too much, it becomes compressed and puts pressure on the brain stem. The brainstem controls heart and breathing functions. Severe hyponatraemia can be fatal. Preventing hyponatremia: Drinking 2-4 cups an hour when during heavy exertion is about the right amount to prevent dehydration. This is another reason for drinking fruit juices (potassium) or a sports drink like Gatorade which has electrolyte replacements. I don't like artificial stuff so I don't use any of the fancy-colored sports drinks. My 'exertion' drinks are all fruit juices (from concentrate) to which I add a small dose of liquid minerals. Note: There are also "party" chemicals which cause brain edema, e.g., butyl and other nitrates. Their relative amyl nitrate is used medically to quickly increase the supply of blood to the heart (popular name = poppers). Amyl Nitrate => swollen brain, headaches, and possible mortality (overuse?). __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Beungood@aol.com Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 16:26:30 EST To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 12/31/02 5:59:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > Hi Jack, > > I figured they were keeping you real busy up there. If you get an opening, > drop me a line and we'll work something out. > > I will definately be getting in contact with you after the first of the year Bill. Save some sticks for me! Jack --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 16:27:57 -0500 From: Khalkee@netscape.net To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Water Toxicity Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Too Much of a Good Thing Can Kill You E-mail to a friend A new review of three deaths of US military recruits highlights the dangers of drinking too much water. The military has traditionally focused on the dangers associated with heat illness, which has killed a number of healthy, young enrollees. However, pushing the need to drink water too far can also have deadly consequences. The risk has always been not drinking enough. And then people who aren't medically attuned get overzealous, inducing recruits to drink amounts of water that endanger their health. In September 1999, a 19-year-old Air Force recruit collapsed during a 5.8-mile walk, with a body temperature of 108 degrees Fahrenheit. Doctors concluded he had died of both heat stroke and low blood sodium levels as a result of overhydration. During January 2000, a 20-year-old trainee in the Army drank around 12 quarts of water during a 2- to 4-hour period while trying to produce a urine specimen for a drug test. She then experienced fecal incontinence, lost consciousness and became confused, then died from swelling in the brain and lungs as a result of low blood sodium. In March 2001, a 19-year-old Marine died from drinking too much water after a 26-mile march, during which he carried a pack and gear weighing more than 90 pounds. Although he appeared fine during the beginning stages of the 8-hour walk, towards the end he began vomiting and appeared overly tired. He was then sent to the hospital, where he fell into a coma, developed brain swelling and died the next day. It is unclear how much water he drank during the march, but Marines were given a "constant emphasis" on drinking water before and during the activity. Drinking too much water is dangerous because the body cannot excrete that much fluid. Excess water then goes to the bowel, which pulls salt into it from the body, diluting the concentration of salt in the tissues. Changing the concentration of salt, in turn, causes a shifting of fluids within the body, which can then induce a swelling in the brain. The swollen organ will then press against the bones of the skull, and become damaged. Previous cases of water toxicity have been noted in athletes who consume excessive amounts in order to avoid heat stroke. In addition, certain psychiatric patients may drink too much water in an attempt to wash away their sins, or flush out poisons they believe have entered their bodies. In 1998, the Army released fluid replacement guidelines, which recommend a certain intake of water but limit it to 1 to 1-1/2 quarts per hour and 12 quarts per day. __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry, http://MartialArtsResource.com, http://Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest