Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 23:04:04 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #2 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Help: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: Send Eskrima mailing list submissions to eskrima@martialartsresource.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net You can reach the person managing the list at eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Eskrima digest..." <<---- The Sudlud-Inayan/Eskrima/Kali/Arnis/FMA mailing list ---->> Serving the Internet since June 1994. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). http://SudludEskrima.com http://InayanEskrima.com/index.cfm See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: water toxin RE: brain function (Jonas Dyhrfjeld-Johnsen) 2. Re: Cross body blocks (Kes41355@aol.com) 3. I'm not a Dr. but I play one every....... (rocky pasiwk) 4. Clear thinking (Michael Koblic) 5. Cross-body blocks (Michael Koblic) 6. Confusing Arab culture with Islam (S. H. WEE) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 17:47:19 +0100 From: Jonas Dyhrfjeld-Johnsen To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Organization: C|S|N-Group, Vogt Brain Research Inst. Subject: [Eskrima] Re: water toxin RE: brain function Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Something I have experienced during training is a lack of ability to think quickly or clearly > towards the end of class. I would think nothing of it except for the fact that I need to think in > order to pick up the next series of lessons and have problems due to this phenomenon. > For any of you that are educated in this area, is there a dietary supplement or a dietary modification > that I can make to alleviate this problem? It seems that electrolyte balance pointed to a > clue about this problem. Well it could be a lot of things, and you dont give much info on the situation: When do you train (after a long day at work??), how long do you train, when do you eat and drink before the training, how is your diet ?? Without this information its hard to tell, but barring simply being tired at the end of a long day, its probably a matter of being low on "fuel" towards the end of the session. Eat a small meal/snack 30-60 minutes before training, and make sure that its a good combination of slow carbs (like whole grain products etc.), protein and healthy fats (like nuts), - an easy to carry snack is a "trail mix" of nuts and raisins. This should provide you with all you need to stay alert (carbs and fat will ensure that you have energy for both the beginning and the end of the session). On top of that make sure that you are drinking enough water, - not just while training but throughout the day. Peace, Jonas --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Kes41355@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:34:00 EST To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Cross body blocks Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi all, I'm not sure if this is what you (Mike Koblic) were referring to when you talked about the cross body block, and "eating" the left hand counter when you move in, but I think it relates to what we call an Inside Sweep block in Inayan Eskrima, and how we deal with the left hand counter. Using the inside sweep block (your stick vertical to block reverberation from opponent's stick, left hand behind the right and checking his hand), to counter a #1 angle attack (downward vertical strike to your left collarbone), we move in as the stick and hand cross the body to intercept the #1 angle. Once you are in motion, your stick will already in position to intercept just about anything else coming in. Let's refer to the common angles 1,2,3,4,5 here...a backhand follow-up (#2 angle) would be met with an outside sweep block; a #3 (inward strike to left hip) with a pass and strike; a #4 (backhand strike to right hip) met with a punch block; and a #5 (stab to abdomen) with a fan block and flip hit. My point here is in Inayan, we do a thing in which we train to "link" counterattacks together, so we can move to counter another angle with the least amount of effort, and maximum power once we get there. The lock and block drill, especially the later phases of lock and block, is an excellent training tool for instilling this, since lock and block (as the student advances and can handle it) comes as close to actual combat as possible, and you learn quickly to trim away any excess and wasted motion (pain is a great motivator). One thing I forgot to mention...when you step in to check using the cross body block, never turn your shoulder completely into the movement (don't turn your body sideways to the strike); you are just offering your head to be taken off. We step in just far enough to "face" the angle; this gets the body behind the motion and provides the needed power base, but keeps us in line with and able to head off the inevitable second attack. We use the male triangle footwork for this. We also will let our stick collide with the opponent's knuckles just a bit when checking; a nice little diversion, painful as hell, and serves to short circuit the thought process enough to provide the opening to finish the job. I also especially liked Doc's answer, too...you know it's coming, don't give him the chance to hit, just intercept his thought process with a good whack!! This is "knowing the options," a common concept in most FMA's (at least the ones I'm familiar with). Once you counter, you know where he's open, but you also know where he is most likely to hit from next; beat him to the punch. Bahala Na, Kim --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "rocky pasiwk" To: Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 14:14:58 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] I'm not a Dr. but I play one every....... Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Well I'm not a Dr. but I play one, when ever my wife will let me.....;-)!!! Anyways the key to keeping mentally alert when training especially if your are new is to keep plenty hydrated, I have met some hard core traditional Karate instructors that won't let there people drink water while training, these instructors are basically morons, and living in the past, you really can't get enough water in you when training hard, just make sure not to gulp it, drink in small drinks and more frequent, boxers have known this for 75 years sometimes the sports medicine people take a while to catch up to what professional athletes have know for years. Another thing that will drain you quickly is if you think to much, remember the good guys in your class didn't get this stuff overnight!!! take your time, don't try to impress anyone else, better to learn only one basic move in a class or even a week and learn it right then to learn 20 things you can't do worth a shit. Mental thought under strain uses as much fuel as just plain physical work some times. So just take it easy, drink lots of water, I personally take some basic vitamins and minerals, but I think most of the nutritional shit on the market is just money making products for gullible morons, and damn I wish I could have got into that business on the ground floor:-) Dr. Rocky Pasiwk, BMF, MF, BS'er and a whole lot more! --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:01:10 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Clear thinking Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net "Something I have experienced during training is a lack of ability to think quickly or clearly towards the end of class. I would think nothing of it except for the fact that I need to think in order to pick up the next series of lessons and have problems due to this phenomenon. For any of you that are educated in this area, is there a dietary supplement or a dietary modification that I can make to alleviate this problem? It seems that electrolyte balance pointed to a clue about this problem." At least you can think quickly and clearly at the beginning, unlike some of us :-) Seriously, is this related to what you do in the class? A brain flooded with lactate is a slow and erratic brain. So is a dehydrated brain. Can you share more about the details of the electrolyte balance? Are there any other symptoms, e.g nausea? Are you hungry going to the class? I know people who feel "weird and shaky" and blame it on hypoglycaemia, yet their blood sugar is normal in those moments. They are, however, reliably cured by a snack. Mike Koblic, Campbell River, BC --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:04:05 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Cross-body blocks Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net ". Doing the stimulus response thing is disasterous. Make him do all the responding you do all the stimulating. Tell us more of what the cross body thing is." I apologise for the lack of clarity. Obviously my mind is not as organized as Bob Orlando's. The blocks look something like this: When facing your opponent you block a right punch with your right hand (which has to travel across your body). This is immediately followed up by a left hand which slips into its place (a sort of double tap, Mr. Orlando does this with a machine gun speed). The right hand is then engaged in a followup technique, e.g a hacking forearm to the neck. This I would call the "inside" technique. The exact same technique can be applied to a left punch which will get you to the opponent's outside (making a followup punch by the opponent's right hand almost impossible). Mr. Orlando states that you "drill outside" and "apply inside". So far I think the problem is that I have not been following the block in sufficiently, allowing the space for the followup punch (rather than jamming it). Still, it is a work in progress. As to learning from tapes, when you get lemons, you make lemonade...And Mr. Orlando's tapes are no lemons! thanks for the input, Mike Koblic, Campbell River, BC --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "S. H. WEE" To: "Eskrima@Martialartsresource.Net" Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:24:58 +0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Confusing Arab culture with Islam Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Confusing Arab culture with Islam by FARISH NOOR NEW STRAITS TIMES JAN 1, 2003 WED THE Muslim world today is rich with ambiguities. While Islamic ideologues the world over talk about the need for Muslims to break free from the chains of 'mental colonisation' and cultural dependency on the West, they often fail to see the contradiction in their own approach and understanding of normative Islam. Inevitably, calls for the 'return' to a 'pure and authentic' Islam mean one thing: imitating the Arabs and trying as hard as possible to be something that they (and we) are not. This passive imitation may come in a myriad of forms, from wearing Arab garb to speaking with a fake Arabic accent. Some of the more naive and short-sighted Islamists have gone one step further, by trying to 'learn' how to implement hudud punishment as it is practised in some Arab countries, whose own human rights records can at best be described as appalling by any standards. This Uncle Tom complex has been with us for centuries. From Africa to South-east Asia, the normative experience of living Islam is replete with examples of dubious characters and charlatans claiming to be genuine 'sheikhs' and descendants of the Prophet and his companions. Jokes and anecdotes abound about such self-styled 'Sayyeds' whose ancestors came from humbler origins, but this has not stopped the wannabes and carpetbaggers from plying their trade and bluffing their way to the upper echelons of power and high society. But none of this would have been possible were it not for the simple - and embarrassing - fact that, for a vast number of ordinary Muslims of non-Arab origin, the Arabs remain the paragons of virtue to be emulated and admired. The Prophet himself was an Arab, and thus we have been told that Islam and Arabism cannot be distinguished or separated. Such arguments have been put forward by numerous Arabocentric intellectuals like the late Ismail Raj Faruqi, who may not have realised that the Arabs happen to be a minority in the Muslim world and that the dominant language in the Muslim world today is not Arabic, but rather Urdu and Malay. On top of that, the Muslims of Asia seem more than able and willing to discard their language and culture; vilify and demean their way of life; and diminish the value of their past and present accomplishments. For a start, it is in Asia and Africa that Islam has really flourished, evolved and developed according to the local socio-cultural environment. The experience of living Islam in the Malay archipelago, for instance, is one rare example of peaceful conversion and co-existence among different racial, ethnic, linguistic and religious communities. If the Arab world wants to learn a lesson or two about how to co-exist with other religions, it ought to look at the world of Nusantara (South-east Asia) for a change. Muslim Nusantara is also an example of how Islam can develop in a way that accommodates the needs of Muslim women as well. While the Arab world is full of stereotypes about women who are denied education, work opportunities and a public role in society, the Malay-Muslim kingdoms of Aceh, Pattani, Kelantan and others have had as their heads of state Muslim women who governed on par with men. Aceh even had a woman as the admiral of the royal navy. What is more, the rise of women to power was not blocked or condemned by the ulama, but rather justified by them, on the grounds that what counts most is the faith and integrity of the Muslim ruler rather than his gender. Today, South-east Asia remains one part of the Muslim world where normative Islam is still able to adapt to the realities of pluralist modernity. The Taleban may have their friends in drier climes, but they would find it hard to gain an audience in South-east Asia. This is not to suggest that the Arab world has nothing to offer, or that Arab culture should be denigrated or looked down upon. But the fact is that the unprecedented development of Muslim civilisation in the past was due to the relentless traffic of ideas, customs and norms between north and south, east and west. The Muslim world is a collective imaginary with no temporal or geographical borders, and the normative experience of Islam is one that has been constantly evolving, adapting and learning from internal and external influences. For Islam to realise its potential as a truly global religion with a universal message, Muslims themselves need to be open, tolerant and adaptable. The Muslim world has not one, but multiple centres of gravity. Today, some of the most interesting and challenging ideas are coming not from the Arab countries that seem to be in perpetual crisis, but from those countries that were once regarded as being on the 'periphery': Malaysia, Indonesia, South Africa, Europe and North America. Rather than play the secondary role of mimicks and Uncle Toms, Asian, African and Western Muslims should take up the challenge of charting new paths for the Muslim world to follow. And the Arabocentric Islamists among us might also learn to live up to one of the fundamental moral tenets of Islam itself: Humility. ------------------------------------------------------------------ The writer, a regular New Straits Times columnist, is a Malaysian political scientist who has taught at the Centre for Civilisational Dialogue, University of Malaya, and the Institute for Islamic Studies, Frie University of Berlin. He is currently in Leiden University in Holland. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry, http://MartialArtsResource.com, http://Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest