Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 03:01:51 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #8 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Canada Seminar (LOUIE LINDO) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 21:33:17 -0800 (PST) From: Leo Salinel To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] FMA and Christianity (or Religious Ethics) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I was wondering how an evangelical Christian can reconcile his training in the Filipino martial arts (considering the knife and edged weapons training and the counteroffensive focus of training) with Christian values such as "turning the other cheek" and meekness. Do you suppose the early Christians of Rome, when they were being persecuted, had they had knowledge of knife fighting or stuff like that, been justified in defending themselves using weapons or even in defending themselves at all? I do suppose there are no Quaker or Amish FMA'ers, are there? :) ===== Earn $$ just by receiving and reading email! http://www.resource-a-day.net/member/index.cgi?Brandon96 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Dave Huang" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 13:56:41 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: House of Champions Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net House of Champions is one of Manong Cacoy's regular stops in SoCal. Anthony Kleeman is the real deal, and is one of Manong Cacoy's top guys and a very good instructor. All the HoC guys I have met and trained with are top notch people. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Mike Casto" To: Subject: RE: [Eskrima] FMA and Christianity (or Religious Ethics) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:32:35 -0500 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Well ... here's some stuff to consider: "...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." -Jesus Christ, Luke 22:36 "Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight." - Psalms 144:1 13: The Passover of the Jews was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14: In the temple he found those who were selling oxen and sheep and pigeons, and the money-changers at their business. 15: And making a whip of cords, he drove them all, with the sheep and oxen, out of the temple; and he poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables. 16: And he told those who sold the pigeons, "Take these things away; you shall not make my Father's house a house of trade." - John Chapter 2 I don't know ... sounds to me like ol' JC was something of a warrior himself and that the bible is considerate of practical (and moral) defense. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Leo Salinel [mailto:viceleo96@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:33 AM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] FMA and Christianity (or Religious Ethics) I was wondering how an evangelical Christian can reconcile his training in the Filipino martial arts (considering the knife and edged weapons training and the counteroffensive focus of training) with Christian values such as "turning the other cheek" and meekness. Do you suppose the early Christians of Rome, when they were being persecuted, had they had knowledge of knife fighting or stuff like that, been justified in defending themselves using weapons or even in defending themselves at all? I do suppose there are no Quaker or Amish FMA'ers, are there? :) ===== Earn $$ just by receiving and reading email! http://www.resource-a-day.net/member/index.cgi?Brandon96 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Stovall, Craig" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:37:20 -0600 Subject: [Eskrima] Gotch Takedowns and Submissions Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Dr. Fung wrote, <<>> If it's not too much trouble, can you go into a little more detail or provide a specific example of what you're talking about here. I always like to hear from those who have insight into Gotch's methods. Thanks! --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "LOUIE LINDO" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:31:22 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Kali Ilustrisimo Vancouver, B.C. Canada Seminar Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net 1st Maestro Suanico KALI ILUSTRISIMO Vancouver Seminar We will be hosting a 1 day Kali Ilustrisimo seminar on June 7, 2003 11:00 am - 5:00 pm covering Daga contra Daga by Maestro Norman Suanico. Seminar will be held at Sirota's Alchymy Unit 160 - 5640 Hollybridge Way, Richmond, B.C. Canada Seminar Fee : $ 45.00 (both CND and USD) Contact : Louie D. Lindo at ikatankali@hotmail.com for further information _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry, www.MartialArtsResource.com, www.Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. 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