Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 06:52:02 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #28 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Help: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: Send Eskrima mailing list submissions to eskrima@martialartsresource.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net You can reach the person managing the list at eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Eskrima digest..." <<---- The Sudlud-Inayan/Eskrima/Kali/Arnis/FMA mailing list ---->> Serving the Internet since June 1994. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). http://SudludEskrima.com http://InayanEskrima.com/index.cfm See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Any Advice Anyone? (Jason) 2. filipino boxers of old (Luis Pellicer) 3. Re: Any Advice Anyone? (Ray Terry) 4. Sports Injuries (Ray Terry) 5. FMA and Combat Judo (Leo Salinel) 6. Cambridge, Ontario (Michael Koblic) 7. RE: FMA and Combat Judo (Mike Casto) 8. Re: FMA and Combat Judo (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Jason" To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Any Advice Anyone? Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:24:38 -0800 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Greetings again, First off let me say "Thank You" for all your suggestions. Sounds like I will need an extra month to see everything. Would anyone know how much renting a car or scooter would be ? Do the museums have a admission charge ? Just want to get an idea of how much I will be needing. Andrew reminded me of something...... No I'm not bring home a Maori War club or anything...lol...but, Packing any kind 'weapons type' souvenirs in my suitcase shouldn't be a problem right ? I mean I would not want to buy something and have it taken away later on. As for training, I just recently started and don't think I would bring much to the table sort speak. Except maybe a unquenchable thirst for knowledge. I am, however interested in putting faces to some of these names. Once again, Thank you for all your help. jason --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:29:55 -0800 (PST) From: Luis Pellicer To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] filipino boxers of old Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Without going into detail as to to the whys, the story is not true. The whole deal about FMA and it's influence in old time filipino boxing is not quite true either. If anything, the boxing styles of the respective times probably played a major influence in guys who did both boxing and FMA. //Dear Sirs and Madams, In reference to the filipino boxers of old, and to the current sensation Pacquio (? not sure of the spelling sorry!), is there any truth in saying that there is a influence of the weapons arts in their skills? I have spoken with my instructor and was told that Muhammed Ali once stayed with a Filipino champion boxer,when he was in the Philippines. Im not exactly sure of the source but it was said that Ali's footwork ha elements of FMA footwork. This, I believe, came from the father of this filipino champion who was an escrimador!Sorry to be hacking up second hand information. I hope to stir up some info. Sincerely, Gord// __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Any Advice Anyone? To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:21:11 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Packing any kind 'weapons type' souvenirs in my suitcase shouldn't be a > problem right ? > I mean I would not want to buy something and have it taken away later on. You could not have it in carry on, but you should be able to put it in your check-thru w/o any problems. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net (The_Dojang), eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:47:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] Sports Injuries Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net KNOWING RISKS OFTEN PREVENTS SERIOUS SPORTING INJURIES by Michael R. Bracko, Ed.D, FACSM There are several factors that can cause sports-related injuries. For someone who exercises for physical or mental fitness, a "fitness athlete," one of the most prominent risk factors for injury is level of fitness. Generally speaking, the less "fit" a person is, the greater chance he or she has of getting injured. A beginning exerciser must start an exercise program with low intensity (how "hard" the exercise is), moderate duration (how long the exercise lasts), and moderate frequency (days per week). After three to five weeks of regular exercise, the intensity and duration may be increased, with the frequency staying the same (three days a week). In order to prevent injury in the initial stages of an exercise program, a "fitness athlete" must start "low and slow" (low intensity and slow pace) and gradually increase the amount of exercise. After two to three months, intensity, duration, and frequency may be increased again according to the person's age, time constraints, and motivation. But waiting weeks, then months, to increase intensity, duration, and frequency can decrease the risk of injury as well as the risk of dropping out. Age Age is a key factor for potential injuries. The older we are, the more susceptible our muscles and tendons are to injuries. An older adult who is starting an exercise program must absolutely follow the guideline of "low and slow" in the initial stages of an exercise program. Even an older "fitness athlete" who has been exercising for a long time must be careful with his or her intensity, duration, and especially frequency, making sure there are days off from exercise. Men and Women Differences between men and women in terms of getting injured have more to do with traumatic injuries such as torn ligaments in the knee than muscle/tendon strains or pulls. Generally speaking, men and women and boys and girls must take the same precautions when starting an exercise program. Individual Behavior Behavioral risk factors for getting injured include: lack of sleep, emotional stress (a major cause of back injuries), smoking (risk factor for back injuries), fatiguespecifically a lack of muscle endurance, overuse (tendinitis) or too much exercise (not enough days off). Some injuries simply are of unknown cause, and some injuries simply are caused by exercising too hard, too fast, or doing too much. Stretching and Warm-up? There is now some controversy over whether stretching before exercise prevents muscle and tendon injuries. It has been a long-standing philosophy that stretching immediately prior to exercise will prevent injuries. However, there is new research with practical application that shows stretching prior to exercise or sports participation may not prevent muscle or tendon injury. The research provides four possible reasons why stretching may not prevent injury: 1. A more flexible muscle and tendon doesn't mean that it has a greater ability to absorb forces that may cause injury. 2. Many injuries are not caused by 'overstretching" the muscles. Injuries can occur within a normal range of motion. Therefore, a more flexible muscle may not prevent injury. 3. Mild stretching has been found to weaken the muscle for about 15 minutes. So stretching, then exercising, may put a person at greater risk for injury. 4. Stretching may increase tolerance for pain - that is, it has an analgesic effect. Therefore, it does not seem prudent to decrease one's tolerance to pain, weaken the muscle, and then exercise a weakened, anesthetized muscle. ACSM recommends stretching two to three times a week. Regular stretching can improve other aspects of health, including flexibility. It may be better to gently warm up the body with lowintensity muscle contractions for approximately 10-15 minutes, or until you are sweating, then engage in higher intensity exercise or sport. Warm-up Routines Ten to 20 half squats with no weight, five to 15 push-ups, five to 15 curl-ups, 10 arm circles, 10 heel raises, 10 anklet toe circles with each leg, 10 hip circles, then slowly run or ride a bike for 10 minutes. Weight training: using a light enough weight that you can easily do 10 to 15 repetitions, perform the following exercises: bench press, lat pull-down, shoulder press, seated cable row, five to 15 curl-ups, five to 15 back extensions, squats, leg press or lunges, knee extension, and knee flexion. Before running: walk for five minutes, jog for five minutes, then start "running." The best way to prevent an injury is to gradually increase your fitness level: warm up the muscles; stretch after exercise; use proper form, especially when weight lifting; get plenty of sleep; decrease the intensity and duration of exercise when under stress; and refrain from smoking. --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:32:49 -0800 (PST) From: Leo Salinel To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] FMA and Combat Judo Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I noticed that in a lot of FMA styles they refer to their empty handed aspect as "Combat Judo". What does this mean? Could it mean that: 1. The empty hands aspect of these FMA styles or systems, or practically all or most FMA styles or systems,came from Jujitsu (which is what Combat Judo is essentially)? 2. Or, knowing how we Flips have a way with words (think of "sinalvage", "frigidair", "tinurbo" "karatista" etc., we just appropriated the term "Combat Judo" which was very much in vogue during the prewar and immediate postwar era and used it to refer to our indigenous, endemic, very own empty handed systems which never really had a name because we Flips have always emphasized function over form and categorization? 3. Or, it could be that there was a happy fusion of both Combat Judo/Jujitsu and FMA empty hands that had no name? ===== Earn $$ just by receiving and reading email! http://www.resource-a-day.net/member/index.cgi?Brandon96 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:19:06 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Cambridge, Ontario Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Anyone knows of training opportunity in FMA or Silat in or around Cambridge, Ontario? Mike Koblic, Campbell River, BC --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Mike Casto" To: Subject: RE: [Eskrima] FMA and Combat Judo Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:44:49 -0500 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I've never heard the term "Combat Judo" used ... in FMA or otherwise. The terms that I've most commonly heard for empty hands in FMA are Panantukan, Pangamot, Dumog, and Buno ... or just Filipino Boxing/Wrestling. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Leo Salinel [mailto:viceleo96@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 8:33 PM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] FMA and Combat Judo I noticed that in a lot of FMA styles they refer to their empty handed aspect as "Combat Judo". What does this mean? Could it mean that: 1. The empty hands aspect of these FMA styles or systems, or practically all or most FMA styles or systems,came from Jujitsu (which is what Combat Judo is essentially)? 2. Or, knowing how we Flips have a way with words (think of "sinalvage", "frigidair", "tinurbo" "karatista" etc., we just appropriated the term "Combat Judo" which was very much in vogue during the prewar and immediate postwar era and used it to refer to our indigenous, endemic, very own empty handed systems which never really had a name because we Flips have always emphasized function over form and categorization? 3. Or, it could be that there was a happy fusion of both Combat Judo/Jujitsu and FMA empty hands that had no name? ===== Earn $$ just by receiving and reading email! http://www.resource-a-day.net/member/index.cgi?Brandon96 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 8 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [Eskrima] FMA and Combat Judo To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:03:32 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > I noticed that in a lot of FMA styles they refer to > their empty handed aspect as "Combat Judo". What does > this mean? Could it mean that: I believe that Combat Judo is a term used by some (one I think being Momoy Canete) for a system of unarmed defense against an opponent with a knife. The term Judo is used here in the sense of self-defense, not Kodokan Judo. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry, www.MartialArtsResource.com, www.Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest