Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 03:01:51 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #41 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Inay (1944-2000). http://SudludEskrima.com http://InayanEskrima.com/index.cfm See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Estacada Cane (Stephen Lamade) 2. Panantukan/Panuntukan in RP (Marc Denny) 3. Promotion of Datu Tim Hartman to 7th Degree by WMAA Board. (JefferyJ.Leader) 4. Gm Prsas and Crossada (rocky pasiwk) 5. Re: Gm Prsas and Crossada (Ray Terry) 6. Farewell.... (Dana Vaillancourt) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Stephen Lamade" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 04:31:09 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Estacada Cane Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I am putting together a list of students interested in attending five workshops in Estacada Cane with Bill Schettino. Bill has a unique martial arts background and is one of the best coach/teachers that I have ever known. For more information: http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze4fs8i/bill_schettino.htm http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze4fs8i/estacada.htm The workshops will take place in the New York City area from April to September. Best, Steve Lamade Stephen G. Lamade _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Marc Denny" To: Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 08:35:16 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Panantukan/Panuntukan in RP Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Woof All: > I also have a question, lots of FMA fellows in Europe and the USA mention > the art of Panantukan or "Philippino boxing", > but when I was in the Philippines none of the old Arnisadors I spoke to > ever heard anything about it. > Lately two of my silat brothers (one doing an MA in anthropology oriented > to FMAs at UP) suggested that it is not from Philippino origin ... I just > wonder if some of our group knows more about this art or saw it in the > Philippines. Is there also a place where it is taught in Manila (I will be there > in two weeks for two months and could have a look)? > Maraminng salamat sa advance, > > Dr. Christian Farinetto When I was in Bacolod, Negros Occidental training with GT Leo Gaje he introduced me to a manong (a very fit 65 or so) Kalimba who helped me with my staff and panuntukan. His panuntukan was excellent (the staff too!) and the material similar yet distinctive to Inosanto Blend material in this regard. Also I have seen the home video of a friend who has trained extensively in the Philippines that he shot while there which included panuntukan. >From where were the old Arnisadors of whom you speak Dr Chris? Woof, Crafty Dog --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Jeffery J. Leader To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 12:49:45 -0500 Organization: . Subject: [Eskrima] Promotion of Datu Tim Hartman to 7th Degree by WMAA Board. Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net On behalf of the Advisory Board of the World Modern Arnis Alliance, it is my privilege and pleasure to announce that the Board has promoted Datu Tim Hartman to the rank of 7th degree black belt (Lakan Pito), effective 31 January 2003. This promotion comes after considerable deliberation by the Board as well as consultation with WMAA members and outside experts regarding not only Mr. Hartman's suitability for promotion but also the best way to proceed with high-level promotions in the absence of an accepted promotional authority at the highest levels of the art. The promotion is in recognition of his physical skill and additionally his contributions to spreading the art and organizing the WMAA and its curriculum. The Board extends its congratulations to Datu Hartman. /s/ Jeffery J. Leader, PhD for the WMAA Advisory Board: Charles E. Dulin Paul Janulis Jeffery J. Leader (Chair) Ingmar Johansson Sal Todaro --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "rocky pasiwk" To: Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:09:31 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] Gm Prsas and Crossada Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net This is correct Remy was a Professor of Physical Education in Manila!! >Professor Presas was a professor of Physical education in the Philippines, I >studied under his brother, Professor Ernesto Presas at the University of >Santo Tomas. We called him "Professor" because he was one. >-Carlo Arellano >Mr. Westbroke wrote Remys primary influence's were Balintawak and Cruzada Espada y Daga. Or something to that effect. Actually its called Crossada De Mano, its specialty is close in power absorbing tech. very different than almost all forms I have ever seen. Not that I have even come close to seeing everything Filipino. Sad part is he passed on only about 70 to 80% of the art to me, that I know of he may have passed some on to Mike Morton back in the early 80's but I am not sure. The really sad part is I only remember about 50 to 60% of what he tought me. Unless someone is in the woodwork training in it I do believe it is a dead art. The most interesting part of Crossada De mono is that its empty hand is almost ideal for countering kickers, and the body mechanics, as with Balintawak seem to run in line with some of the Chinese internal arts, Hsing I being the one that comes to mind. Rocky --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Gm Prsas and Crossada To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:25:10 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > art. The most interesting part of Crossada De mono is that its empty hand is > almost ideal for countering kickers, and the body mechanics, as with > Balintawak seem to run in line with some of the Chinese internal arts, Hsing > I being the one that comes to mind. Rocky, Can you explain a bit more about how the kick countering of CdM worked? Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Dana Vaillancourt" To: the_dojang@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 19:38:36 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Farewell.... Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net To our brave and lost seven. Go softly into the light. Our thoughts and prayers go with you and yours. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry, www.MartialArtsResource.com, www.Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest