Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 03:01:49 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #125 - 1 msg X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Help: Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: Send Eskrima mailing list submissions to eskrima@martialartsresource.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net You can reach the person managing the list at eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Eskrima digest..." <<---- The Sudlud-Inayan Eskrima/Kali/Arnis/FMA mailing list ---->> Serving the Internet since June 1994. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). http://SudludEskrima.com http://InayanEskrima.com/index.cfm See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Tatang Ilustrisimo and HH HADJI MOHAMMAD Jamalul Kiram II (Vincent Bollozos) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Vincent Bollozos" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:30:41 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Tatang Ilustrisimo and HH HADJI MOHAMMAD Jamalul Kiram II Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Garrote Olisi Eskrimador I beleive you are WRONG! You wrote : >Tatang was born in 1907 add 9 that gives us the year 1916 when he run away >from home to Mindanao and was taken by his supposedly foster father Sultan >Muhammad. Wrong! The reigning Sultan of Sulu during at that time was Sultan >Jamalal Kiram II whose reign lasted until 1936. > The reigning Sultan at that time was HH HADJI MOHAMMAD Jamalul Kiram II. This is how he signed his name when he signed the Bates treaty in August 20, 1899. HH HADJI MOHAMMAD Jamalul Kiram II took this name upon his rise to Sultan. His orginal name was Hadji Butu. >Notwithstanding this discrepancy the book... There are no discrepancy. Tatang made nothing up. Vince Bollozos _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest