Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 03:01:49 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #154 - 3 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Inay (1944-2000). http://SudludEskrima.com http://InayanEskrima.com/index.cfm See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: Serrada sticks (Kes41355@aol.com) 2. Elderly Martial Artists (Michael Koblic) 3. Serrada blades/sticks (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Kes41355@aol.com Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 12:54:34 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Serrada sticks Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Doc, On the subject of the size and weight of Serrada sticks (God, I hope this doesn't turn into a Freudian discussion...;-)...), size and weight of sticks varies greatly from school. In ours (and when I was into Tacosa Serrada) we use a rather hefty, 21" to 24" stick. The stick is typically 1 1/8" to 1 1/4" in diameter, and we often soak them in linseed oil for added heft. We have seen the wispy sticks used by some Serrada and Kali folks, but they don't stand up when the pressure is on. You can whip the daylights out of the skinny sticks, and speed is definitely increased, but you can do little else with them, and they have no place in combat. In the real thing, you will probably only get one or two hits in a row before the guy moves or hits back. Better have a weapon that will do damage on the first shot. Kim Satterfield --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Michael Koblic" To: "Eskrima digest" Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 14:24:01 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Elderly Martial Artists Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I have returned from various junkets and have been catching up on my Digest reading. I thoroughly enjoyed the thread started by Animal on extreme training. I have also finished reading Bob Orlando's Martial Arts America which was fun. I am recovering from a bruised thumb and an inflamed hip sustained during solo training. Lord knows what would happen if I actually trained with a live partner. My sparring with the dummy seems to be a fifty-fifty affair :-) So, let us assume that one is in this thing "to train for realistic self-defense" for whatever reason. Let us also assume that one has covered the other aspects such as de-escalation techiques, running away (or, as RCMP call it, "tactical relocation") as well as being nicer to people (hey, I am not saying I am any better at these things either, OK, just assuming...). What, then, is the realistic level of training for OFMAs (Old Fart Martial Aritsts) after 50? FWIW I am discovering what it is not: repetitive striking of hard objects brings out the arthritis much more quickly than it achieves conditioning. Sparring with people 1/3 of one's age brings pain (not necessarily bad, nothing cures a bad habit like a bit of pain) and injury (after 50 definitely bad). On the other hand I like the idea of Bob Orlando's octopi who learn by watching. Life would be definitely easier if that was all that was required. As a side issue, are thousands of repetitions of a technique in a single session helpful? I find in MA as well as in other activities that a technique repeated wrong a 1000 times just produces a crappy technique. Generally after the brain gets flooded with lactate the quality of the technique suffers. Is there any point repeating after that or should one break off and restart or go do something else? I used to throw 3000 punches a day when I was young and stupid. I am not sure that I gained any lasting benefit from that. Mike Koblic, Campbell River, BC --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 18:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] Serrada blades/sticks Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > All kinds. However, it is kinda like the croc dundiee scene "this is a > knife!". I think for sowrd as 31" Giron stick length. I believe about the only RP sword longer than ~27" would be the kampilan. > ... The typical serrada > stick is short 2ft or bit less and small diameter less than 1 inch..at least > that is what I have seen used mostly. 24", even a little longer, is pretty typical. I use a 26" to 27" stick for Serrada. My beginning students start at about 22" to 23". 1" is a thin stick. Remember that the "official serrada stick length" got shorter as Gm Angel aged. In the 1960s you see even someone as short as he was doing Serrada with a 26" to 28" stick. > If the intention of Serrada is to translate the blade attributes then I would > think one would use a tool that better represents it. Start with the stick and then translate to the blade of choice as your skill develops. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest