>To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #206 - 5 msgs >Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 03:01:47 -0700 > >Send Eskrima mailing list submissions to > eskrima@martialartsresource.net > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net > >You can reach the person managing the list at > eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Eskrima digest..." > > ><<---- The Sudlud-Inayan Eskrima/Kali/Arnis/FMA mailing list ---->> > >Serving the Internet since June 1994. >Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > >The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. >1600 members. >Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). > >See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine >for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com > >Mabuhay ang eskrima! > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. MA Movies (bill m) > 2. Reply to Buz Grover's post (replying to Tuhon Bill McGrath) (A M) > 3. Re: fight flavored scenes (gints@att.net) > 4. RE: Weapons & Safety (serrada@lvcm.com) > 5. Lethal weapons (Michael Koblic) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >From: "bill m" >To: >Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 01:41:06 -0400 >Subject: [Eskrima] MA Movies >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > >Buz wrote: > > >Tuhon Bill mentioned Akira Kurosawa's Seven Samurai. He's got many >others worth checking out like Rashomon, Dersu Uzala, Kagemusha, Ran, >Throne of Blood, and many more. One film, Sanjuro, has a one move sword >duel at the end that is one of the most amazing minimalist fight scenes >ever shot. Japanese director Hiroshi Inagaki also has quite a few films >with good fight scenes, his trilogy about swordsman Miyamoto Musashi >was well worth seeing.> > >Hey Buz, > >That last fight in Sanjuro is one of my favorite movie fights of all time! >That's what I meant when I wrote: "Watch Sanjuro and see how much drama is >packed into the final sword cut of the movie." >That scene really shows Kurosawa's mastery as a director. Before a >Hollywood >director makes a martial arts movie, he would do well to study Sanjuro. > >My samurai video collection right now is comprised of Yumjimbo, Sanjuro, >Sword >of Doom, The Seven Samurai, The Samurai Trilogy about Musashi, plus two of >the >baby cart series (I'm too lazy to go down stairs and check the names right >now, but they star the brother of the actor who played Zatoichi). > >I have seen Rashomon, Ran, Kagemusha and Throne of Blood, and while they >were >great stories (wasn't it one of the last three that was based on a >Shakespeare >play?) I was disappointed that they went back to the clacky-clacky kendo >style >of swordplay in those later movies. Shogun also disappointed me in this >regard. Great book, but the miniseries missed a big opportunity to showcase >Japanese swordsmanship (despite having James Clavell as executive producer. >He >should have known better). There is surprisingly a pretty good sword scene >in >the Bond film "You Only Live Twice". It occurs when the ninja repel into >the >missile base. Does anyone know if the Japanese actor portraying the head >ninja >has appeared in any samurai films? > >Buz, your mention of Rashomon brings back memories. No martial arts in that >film as I recall, but it did have that famous three sided storyline. I saw >it >at the Bleeker Street Cinema in lower Manhattan. The Bleeker was one of >those >East Village artsy movie houses that got my attention because every Tuesday >night was Japanese film night (and most of these were the better samurai >movies). Fellow New Yorker Al Sardinas may remember the Bleeker. It was >down >the block from the only Banana Republic store in Manhattan (back when >Banana >Republic was a MAN'S store that had cargo nets hanging from the ceiling and >played 1930's big band music while you paroozed its military surplus goods >and >safari travel clothing. That was before the evil Gap/Borg took >over/assimilated the chain). Another good samurai movie (although it >doesn't >have the kind of swordplay that I like) is The Hidden Fortress. The first >Star >Wars was said to be inspired by it. I remember a cool shot of Mifune riding >rock steady on his galloping horse, reins in his teeth, both hands holding >his >sword above his head. > >To Buz and all the other Samurai movie afficiados on the list. Seeing my >preference for the kenjutsu/Iaido type swordplay seen in Sanjuro, Sword of >Doom, etc, what other movies would you recommend that have that style? > >To you Kung Fu movie buffs: I recall a 1970's Hong Kong movie in which the >hero used a spear that had an all steel shaft and head. I think the story >involved him defending a girl who owned a restaurant and her little >brother. >The hero defeats the bad guys at the movie's end, but is found dead by the >little boy in the woods behind the restaurant. The hero's kung fu is so >good >that he is found standing tall, eyes open, spear in hand, dead. >Does this storyline ring a bell? Can anyone tell me the name of this film? > > >Regards, >Tuhon Bill McGrath >PS to Rocky. Notice how everyone gave a non-Eskrima based movie as their >favorite. One day we have got to change that. >Email: tuhonbill@pekiti-tirsia.com >PTI website: http://www.pekiti-tirsia.com/ > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 01:53:57 -0700 (PDT) >From: A M >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [Eskrima] Reply to Buz Grover's post (replying to Tuhon Bill >McGrath) >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > >Regarding the movie HEAT, I understand that the gun >scenes were choreographed by Andy McNab (his >pseudonym) of Bravo-Two-Zero fame. In the big bank >robbery shoot out, he basically choreographed it from >his point of view if he were caught and trying to >escape. For those unfamiliar with the name, Andy >McNab was an SAS sargent who's patrol was discovered >in Iraq during the Gulf War while tasked to hunt SCUD >missiles and destroy fiber optic cables. Three died, >four were captured and tortured, one got away. > >Akira Kurosawa's movies are incredible, favorites: >RAN, YOJIMBO and THE SEVEN SAMURAI. > >Some of the choreograpy of the Star Wars Jedi fight >scenes look good one on one, one on two, but the big >group scenes, they just flail away. If it wasn't for >the special effects.... > >Someone mentioned ZULU and being pretty good. I'll >have to check it out. One great scene, that I like to >think was acurate was Mel Gibson rescuing his son in >the movie THE PATRIOT. Man the way he handled that >tomahawk... > >My rants... >Anthony > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). >http://calendar.yahoo.com > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >From: gints@att.net >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 10:37:59 +0000 >Subject: [Eskrima] Re: fight flavored scenes >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > >My pet peve comes from the old Kung-Fu movies where two battle it > >out for 30 minutes. One guy takes a blow to the mouth, then gets pissed >and > >remembers he has two sais down his pants and whips them out now that he's > >really mad. > >Although I agree that this is not realistic fighting, I often laughed >at scenes like that. After a good Saturday/Sunday afternoon of Tarzan >and Kung-Fu movies, my brother and I would jump and >see if we could do the Tiger Claw of death to each other. > >--__--__-- > >Message: 4 >Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 03:48:25 -0700 >From: serrada@lvcm.com >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Weapons & Safety >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > > Message: 4 > > From: "Joey Marana" > > Statistics can be great, but they can also be misleading. > > >Yeah, but this works both ways. Check out this excerpt from VPC's website: > >Nearly One Third of Kids Murdered With Handguns Are Shot And Killed by >Other Kids, VPC Study Reveals > >Washington, DC—Children and youth are murdered with handguns more often >than with all other weapons combined, according to a new 27-page study >released today by the Violence Policy Center (VPC). Kids in the Line of >Fire: Children, Handguns, and Homicide is a first-time analysis of >handgun murders of children up to age 17. The study analyzes unpublished >Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) homicide data for the five-year >period 1995 through 1999—the most recent data available. During this >period, nearly a third (32.1 percent) of child handgun homicide victims >were murdered by another child. Other findings include: an average of >two children per day were murdered with handguns in the U.S. from 1995 >to 1999; and, that black children had the highest rate of handgun >homicide victimization—seven times higher than that of white children. > > >What they casually forget to tell you is the numbers of murders per age. > The ages with the highest murders are 17,16, and 15 respectively, but >that's not on their website or mentioned by people that quote those >statistics. They also don't tell you that most of them are either gang >related or done by "children" while committing a crime. What they would >like you to believe is that they are handing out guns at the playgrounds >and daycare centers. This is driven home by their continuous use of >"child" "children" and "kids" in the article. This is all just another >step in the leftists road to utopia. The parents of these children >should be what's in question and not the guns. The guns were just the >object used to get the job done. > >Easy fix for all of this gun mess. Hold people responsible for their >own actions. > >Gun control=Control of People=Socialism >Govt control of education=Control of Children=Socialism > >Jim > >--__--__-- > >Message: 5 >From: "Michael Koblic" >To: "Eskrima digest" >Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 14:08:21 -0700 >Subject: [Eskrima] Lethal weapons >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > >Some interesting statistics . . . > > > > 1. The number of physicians in the US is 700,000. > > > 2. Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000. > > > 3. Accidental deaths per physician are 0.171. (US Dept. of > > > Health and Human Services) > > > > > > Then - think about this: > > > 1. The number of gun owners in the US is 80,000,000. > > > 2. The number of accidental gun deaths per year is 1,500. > > > 3. The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .0000188. > > > > > > Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more > > > dangerous than gun owners. > > > > > > FACT: Not Everyone Has A Gun, But Almost Everyone Has At Least One > > > Doctor. > >That is why at least in Canada doctors are strictly licensed and >registered! >There are types of doctors who are prohibited partly as a result of the >efforts of the Doctor Control Lobby. More restrictive laws are in the >offing, at least in BC. > >For my part I have always thought that doctors don't kill people, people >kill people...on the other hand that is probably wrong. However, they will >have to pry my doctor from my dead cold fingers... > >Mike Koblic, >Campbell River, BC > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima >http://eskrima-fma.net >Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. > >Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com >Standard disclaimers apply. >Remember 9-11! > >End of Eskrima Digest