Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 03:01:50 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #219 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Re: sport sparring (Judo36@aol.com) 2. Eskrima in Phoenix, AZ (Bakbakan@aol.com) 3. Applegate - Knife Defense (Ray Terry) 4. FMA in Harrisburg, PA (Ken Grubb) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Judo36@aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 17:33:20 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: sport sparring Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 6/11/2003 4:46:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > sport sparring Here is a tournament in August I.T.O. presents the All-comers Tournament August 16th at the Campbell Community Center, Campbell Ca. There are four different categories to compete in, point sparring, domination, karenza, and knife fighting. The knife catagory will use a chalk blade and go by a first point system. I will post more info later. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Bakbakan@aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 17:38:05 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Eskrima in Phoenix, AZ Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello, I will be in Phoenix from July 6th - August 7th. During this time I would like to meet some local Eskrima / Arnis players. I have already been in contact with Master Sam Buot of Balintawak but would enjoy meeting others too. Kindly send any information to bakbakan@aol. Thanks, John G. Jacobo BAKBAKAN International --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] Applegate - Knife Defense Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Knife Defense By Rex Applegate (from 1980s magazine article, exact source unknown) A successful knife defense depends upon being able to see the attack coming, or at least being forewarned through knowledge and training. A knife assault is many times launched in darkness, or in such a way that it is impossible to detect immediately the opening move of the attack, such as drawing the weapon. The soldier, military policeman, or law enforcement officer, therefore, should use the following general precautions in any area where he suspects a knife may be used against him. He should: (1) Dominate any threatening situation by maintaining a bearing that indicates confidence and aggressiveness. (2) Keep his back well-protected at all times by keeping well away from dark corners, the sides of buildings and driveways or by having a wall or some other solid object immediately at his rear. (3) Keep his own hands and weapons in such position that they are readily available for undertaking immediately the proper offensive or defensive action. (4) Prevent being placed in such a position that unknown and suspicious persons are within arm's reach of his body. (5) Always watch the movement and position of any suspect's hands. (6) In areas where slash knife attacks may be expected, wear heavy clothing (overcoat, shortcoat, or other), since this will furnish a certain degree of protection. Even strict observance of these precautions will not always suffice to prevent a surprise attack. On the other hand,too obvious precautions against possible attack may indicate a lack of confidence and fear which will only encourage an attacker. If an attack is launched at close quarters and the victim of the assault is unable to employ any of the common defenses, the only thing he can do is try to block or parry the thrust or slash with his hands and arms. Such a reaction is instinctive and is the only one possible under the circumstances. Although inadequate, it is better to sustain a wound on the arm or hand than one on the body, face, or throat area. A number of unarmed knife defenses can be undertaken in certain circumstances, but the soldier or police officer on duty should never be without his weapons. He should rely on them first. In police usage, certain types of knife attacks, such as those made by demented persons, can be stopped or otherwise restrained by conventional methods. At the other extreme is the cold-blooded attack made by the criminal of the most vicious type. In such a case, few explanations will have to he made if the officer draws his weapon and shoots the attacker down. As in other cases, the degree of force used in knife defense is dependent on the local situation and the judgment of the officer concerned. If he is carrying a baton or riot stick, the policeman can stop such knife assaults with this weapon alone. A sharp blow to the knife wrist, hand, or elbow will often stop the attack long enough to permit a more disabling blow. In many cases, if the hand gun is drawn, the mere presence of the weapon will deter the potential attacker. If time permits, a well-placed shot in the legs or shoulder can he used to stop the assault. Other circumstances may justify shooting to kill. Kinds of Knife Defense The following knife defenses are designed for situations in which the individual is unarmed, or for some other reason cannot use the weapon which he normally carries. It is here, especially, that knowledge of the ways in which a knife attack can be made is valuable in estimating the capabilities of the opponent. For example, the man who holds his knife diagonally across his palm and carries it close to his side while advancing to an attack in a crouch is obviously to be respected, and defenses such as the parry and the block (shown under "Defense IV" and "Defense V" on the following pages) cannot be used as effectively as those discussed first. DEFENSE I. Throw anything that is within reach, a handful of dirt, a hat, a piece of clothing, furniture. Follow up by using any object at hand for striking a blow; or use the feet in offensive action. Once the aggressor has been momentarily stopped or disconcerted, a counterattack must be launched immediately. DEFENSE II. Use a chair. The chair defense against a knife man is good, provided you have a chair handy. Grip it by the back and point the legs at your attacker. Advance toward him, making short jabs as you advance. The principle involved here is the same as that used in lion taming. The knife man cannot possibly watch all four legs of the chair at once when they are moving. He becomes confused and is susceptible to blows from the feet, which can be directed towards his body in coordination with a thrust of the chair. DEFENSE III. Kick out the opponent's knee. When he is down, follow up with an attack on other parts of his body. Stomp on his knife hand when he goes down, or kick him in the ribs or the head. In some cases, a block of the thrust, followed by stomping on his shin or top of the foot, will suffice. If you find yourself outnumbered and facing attackers who are apt to use knives, back into a corner and use your feet to keep them out of arm's reach. Never discount the value of the feet when facing an opponent who is unarmed, or armed with a club or a bladed weapon. DEFENSE IV. The parry is a good defense against the downward knife thrust. It diverts the initial direction of the thrust as it sweeps downward. This is better than the block defense, because the whole length of the arm can be used. By using the right arm to parry to the right, the hand holding the knife will follow down along the outside of the body. Even in case the parry is not entirely successful, a flesh wound in a nonvital area will result. Here again, the defender takes advantage of the instinctive movement of thrusting his master hand above his head in order to protect himself from the downward blow. The only difference is that the movement of the right arm is a sweep to the right across the front of the body in place of a block. Conversely, one can parry the downward blow of a right-handed man, by using the left arm to parry to the outside, but in this case the chance is greater of the knife crashing through if the parry is unsuccessful. This is because the defender's body is directly facing the knife man; whereas when he uses his right arm, the trunk of his body is turned away from danger. When you are faced with a knife held in the hand of an enemy for an upward thrust into your abdominal region, the parry again is a good means of defense. The parry can be executed either with the right or left arm as follows. As the attacker makes an upward thrust, sweep your right arm across the front of your body and catch the upward moving knife arm on the outside of your arm. This will divert the direction of the thrust to your right, or outside, of your body. The left arm also may be used to parry the weapon to the right, but better timing is necessary if the left is used. Any forceful cross sweep of the arm in any direction, such as in a parry, causes the body to pivot naturally out of line of the thrust. Once the parry or block has been successfully completed, you must move in close to your man and attack. DEFENSE V. The block knife defense. Almost all the knife defenses involve a block of the descending knife arm by grasping the wrist or by using the forearm. However, these do not take into account the extreme force of the downward thrust and its resulting momentum, which may cause the blade to crash through such a defense and penetrate a vital body area. Arm Lock Defense. The most common knife defense is the one which utilizes a grip of the knife wrist by the left hand, followed by an arm lock. In this, the momentum of the knife arm may crash through the thumb to the knife's objective. Another danger in using the common block-type defense-of grasping the knife wrist with the left hand-is that such a method depends upon good light and perfect timing to make possible a grip on the moving knife wrist. If the blow is sweeping down with great force and the recipient tries to grip the wrist in his left hand, the force directed toward the body area may be such that the thumb side of the gripping hand is liable to give way, thus allowing the thrust to continue toward its goal. Block Defense. The block defense is best employed when the gripping hand grasps the knife wrist while it is still cocked above the head, prior to the time when the momentum. of the downward thrust is initiated. A block defense against the downward thrust, which is more certain to stop the momentum of the stroke is executed by crossing the arms and placing them above the head, with the body in a slight crouch, so that the arms are in the path of the descending knife arm. An attack may be initiated when the knife arm is stopped. The same procedure is workable against the upward thrust to the mid-section. In this case, the body should be bent forward, so that the crossed arms divert the thrust away from the body. A straight block of the downward knife-thrust, by the forearm with the arm bent, is not advisable, since the momentum and power of the blow are usually sufficient to cause the elbow to bend and allow the blade to continue in its original direction. Block defenses are best used against individuals striving to strike overhead blows with clubs, and similar weapons. Defense To Offense! The key factor in concluding an unarmed encounter with a knife wielder is immediate attack, moving in close to the attacker's body, once the thrust has been parried or blocked. If the knife man is allowed to withdraw and recover, the whole procedure will have to be repeated. Either type of knife defense, parry or block, involves a certain amount of risk. This risk can be decreased only by the increased proficiency achieved in practice. Instruction in knife defense must be preceded by a thorough demonstration of the various types of knife attack. Afterwards trainees may practice the techniques against one another. For this purpose rubber knives, wooden knives, or pup tent pegs, as issued in the Army, are ideal substitutes for knives. --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Ken Grubb" To: "Eskrima List" Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 22:36:45 -0400 Subject: [Eskrima] FMA in Harrisburg, PA Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Guro Duane Ranieri has reopened at his new location in Lemoyne, PA -- the west shore of Harrisburg. Guro Duane trains under GM Ernesto Presas in Kombatan Arnis. He is also Sifu Duane and trains in Pa Kua Chang under Master Park Bok-Nam. 324 Market Street Lemoyne, PA 17043 http://www.ChineseBoxing.net mailto:ChineseFitness@aol.com (717)975-5556 The schedule is still forming, but Arnis classes are held Tuesday at 6:15 PM and Saturday at 10:00 AM. Stop on in. Ken Grubb Lower Paxton Twp, PA --------------------------------- "Cum catapultae proscribeantur tum soli proscripti catapultas habeant." --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest