From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #236 - 9 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. class warmups ? (Ray Terry) 2. Tui Na for injuries (Stephen Lamade) 3. Re: Escrima wall emblems (anbllc@dslextreme.com) 4. Escrima Products (anbllc@dslextreme.com) 5. Lisa and Size (Johnaleen) 6. Bigger = better? (Stickboxr@aol.com) 7. Re: size (Gints Klimanis) 8. Re: Size Matters (Buz Grover) 9. Its not the stick its the motion (Marc Denny) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 16:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] class warmups ? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net What do you do for class warmups? Or do you expect your students to be 'ready to rock', i.e. warmed up, prior to the start of the class? Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Stephen Lamade" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 13:25:26 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Tui Na for injuries Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Anyone interested in learning Tui Na (which can be very useful for treating martial arts injuries) may find the following of interest: www.zhenggutuina.com Best, Steve Lamade _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 07:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Escrima wall emblems From: To: Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Thanks Jon for replying. Have you ordered from them before? I contacted them but no replies. i live in the US. They do carry everything I'm looking for but I don't understand their ordering process. I've attached the items I'm looking for. -Tony > Hi > > Check out Quick Stick at: > > http://www.quick-stick.de/anglo/frame2.htm > > He carries a vast range of everything you could ever want for FMA > practice, including decorative shields with lots of little sticks and > knives on them. > > Jon > >>>>> > Hi, I have 2 questions for you Kali ladies and gentlemen. Do any of you > know where I can purchase Escrima wall emblems? They are the emblems > that have the stick and daggers. Also, does anyone know of any > instructors in Palmdale California? > Thanks! > <<<< > > There's nothing more dangerous than a blunt knife! > http://www.geocities.com/jonbroster > > > > -- > Personalised email by http://another.com > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 1600 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of kalijack.jpg] [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of wom.jpg] --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 07:48:47 -0700 (PDT) From: To: Subject: [Eskrima] Escrima Products Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi all, I have attached 2 bmp's to this message. They are images of the products I'm searching for, but for some reason I can't find them anywhere. At least anywhere where I can simply place my order. I never woulf have thought Kali products are so hard to locate. Sticks and swords are the only things that are easy to find. Can anyone help me out. I have ask this question before, but the answers haven't helped me much. I don't mean that to sound ungrateful, because I am grateful for the replies I've gotten. I just wish there was somewhere that a person can go and place your order. Kali products are very hard to locate. Thanks! :) [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of wom.jpg] [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of kalijack.jpg] --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Johnaleen" To: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:15:49 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Lisa and Size Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Lisa wrote: To all of you who insist that bigger is better: What should the smaller person do then? Roll over and die??? ******* LOL no Lisa bigger is not better its just it makes a difference, as far as what to do, its mostly up to what you want your training for as i said in the last post. what do you want to train for? and if its partly for self defense pick something that will cover all the realties on the streets. either take an SDA class or evaluate your training and make sure its covering the realty based things you will need for the streets. Ms. J... --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Stickboxr@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:04:43 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Bigger = better? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > To all of you who insist that bigger is better: What should the smaller > person do then? Roll over and die??? > > Lisa Sorry about opening this can of worms. I merely questioned the claim that size may not matter after all. If I was as talented as someone else, my technique as good, my attributes as sharp, then wouldn't my reach and the strength that often accompanies mass be a factor? If anyone doubts this argument, ask yourself this: who would win, you or a clone of yourself that's 10% larger? On the flip side, even I could argue against the idea that bigger is better... A former instructor of mine, certified in kickboxing under Inosanto, was a giant with the longest reach I've ever seen. Though smaller than him, I neverthless could defend and counter those nasty kicks and punches of his, eventually. Likewise, I currently train under several different guys teaching Kali and Arnis, and they're all way smaller than me. Sometimes it seems that one good hit of mine would plow through anything they try, but then I quickly realize that pretty much any of them can take me out at any moment they want! After seeing the cheesy martial arts flick "Showdown In Little Tokyo," I was asked which star's physique I'd rather have, the large, muscular Dolph Lundgren's or the tight, light Brandon Lee's? I have yet to decide... Matt --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 11:14:38 -0700 From: Gints Klimanis Organization: none To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: size Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > To all of you who insist that bigger is better: What should the smaller > person do then? Roll over and die??? Not at all. It's important to realize the inherent superiority of a larger and stronger opponent in the majority of man-to-man combat. Training is the equalizer. Training provides a person the opportunity to exceed the larger opponent. Other improvements are physical conditioning, experience, weapons and friends ! Many smaller people join martial arts to gain an edge in self-defense. On average, a few lessons will not elevate a student appreciably above the average physical ability. For some that start below average, decades of training will close the gap but not entirely. --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 14:36:31 -0400 From: Buz Grover To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Size Matters Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I'd like to weigh in on the size debate, though my contribution is pretty paradoxical. At 6'6" 260 lbs, I've no doubt at all my size has served me well over the years. With that said, some of the folks I've had the toughest time with are people who can get inside on me and tie me up, i.e. smaller folk. Given my druthers, however, I'd just as soon stay my size. The situation has not been a static one. Back when I was training traditional MA's, it use to drive me nuts when sparring: I'd try to use the traditional techniques and some smaller guy would move in and climb me like a tree. Then along came Muay Thai. Added some elbows, knees, head butts and standing grappling to my repertoire and the price of moving inside on me went way up. Adding a couple tools to the box turned a liability into an asset. Bottom line is you have to use what you have to your best advantage. IMO this is where the game gets interesting. I'll never be mistaken, for instance, for a buff 20 year old with superior cardiovascular capacity so when sparring one of the same I don't play to his or her advantages. Often times I'll play big, dumb, white guy: move slowly, throw my punches short, leave openings, and respond half a beat late. When they get cocky and move in I'll throw something at them from a direction and with a speed they weren't expecting. Springing up and forward in the air then bringing a hammer fist down on the top of a noggin along a number 1 line has yielded some interesting results over the years. I think the fencing example that's been used in this thread can serve to illustrate the "doing what you can with what you have" point. When the fight is occurring on a single axis with similar weapons I can see how the smaller person may have an advantage: she has less real estate to protect and more acreage to attack and may indeed be faster and better coordinated than her larger opponent. Add low line kicks, sweeps, crashing, 360 degree lines of attack, and grappling to the mix, and my guess is the odds would swing toward the larger combatant. Give the smaller person a handful of pennies to fling at an opponents eyes and a gunting blade stuffed in a sock should things go to the ground and the equation changes again. All things are never equal so useful generalities are hard to come by. I think, however, raw physics give bigger people an advantage in an unstructured fights. I think smaller folks know this and hence are more motivated to develop an edge. Though I wouldn't give away my size advantage if I could, I'm not going to take for granted that I can beat a smaller opponent. Often times I can't. Regards, Buz Grover --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Marc Denny" To: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 12:50:38 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Its not the stick its the motion Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Woof All: With our Third Annual Dog Brothers Martial Arts Training Camp (July 10-12, held at the Inosanto Academy) and our summer "Dog Brothers Gathering of the Pack" (July 13 at the RAW Gym) and deep in the process of editing our first DVD, I have not had much time to enter into the thread about the importance of size. As a cruiserweight (fighting over the years between 190-198) I have the perspective of sometimes being the bigger man and sometimes the smaller. Here's how I organize it in my thinking: Size matters even in the presence of impact weapons, but less so. Size matters less in grappling range than striking range, either unarmed or with impact weapons. With bladed weapons (dueling conditions as versus ambush) speed matters more than size. This is my sense of the statistical probabilities but I think the point in JKDC about it being more important to be responsive to the particular situation in which you find yourself as versus applying a general rule is the most important thing. Woof, Crafty Dog --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest