Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 06:31:02 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #246 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. RE: BilTuff, Martial Arts Supplies Co. (marko.ronkainen@nokia.com) 2. Fictional Fight Scenes in Print (Karim Rashad) 3. Re:Little Big Man (Alvis W. Solis) 4. Sama Sama 2003 review (this is a little long) (Steven Lefebvre) 5. Ceramic knives,Guns and Octopi (Brian Phillips) 6. Bob Torres (Ray Terry) 7. Re: Bob Torres (MarkLugtu@aol.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 Subject: RE: [Eskrima] BilTuff, Martial Arts Supplies Co. Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:28:47 +0300 From: To: Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Anyone "here" familiar with Martial Arts Supplies Co. of > Venice, CA? BilTuff? I'm trying to locate one of these > entities re: a bag stand that I purchased "when I wuz a > younger man" :-) I'm working up an idea for a free-standing > mook jong based on the stand's base. Any info which might > help me track these fellas would be appreciated. Need > another base and some fittings. > > Mitakuye Oyasin. > > Be well, > Mik Hi Mik, a quick search with Google gave me this link http://members.aol.com/Cunningham/ju02007.htm which has: Martial Arts Supplies Co., Inc. 10711 Venice Blvd. Los Angles, CA 90034-6294 213-870-9866 does that sound like a right place? - Marko --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Karim Rashad To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: 10 Jul 2003 08:51:24 +0100 Subject: [Eskrima] Fictional Fight Scenes in Print Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 20:00, eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net wrote: > "So now I will ask the members of this list: Can you name some books with > great > fight scenes? Well, from a science fiction perspective: 'Dune' by Frank Herbert, which is an absolute classic of a book, also happens to have a hell of a lot of knife-fighting in it, of various styles. A more recent sf book is 'The Scar' by China Mieville, whose author obviously knows a fair bit about martial arts- there's weapons, various kinds of empty hand fights described, and even a bit of grappling is thrown in there. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Alvis W. Solis" To: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:00:33 -0500 Organization: Solis Martial Arts Academy Subject: [Eskrima] Re:Little Big Man Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Guro Crafty wrote:"7) He doesn't seem to think of himself as small." I have several students who are 5'6" and under. These guys are some of my best fighters. They fight like they are ten foot tall, and I feel that makes a difference. If you think of yourself as small, you fight small...its the same with everything else ;) I weighed 205lbs January 1st of this year. I am 5'9", 39 years old. When I was active in Dog Brother Gatherings, I weighed between 215-225lbs. I always told Guro Crafty I weighed 205 because I was embarrassed about my weight. In March I decided that I would join my wife in weight watchers. I am now 170lbs, getting ready to compete in the Mundials (BJJ world championships) here at the end of the month. The regular Mundials, not the Masters (over 30) and am having to make changes in my game due to being lighter. I don't see myself as smaller...I am lighter, faster and strong. My back has increased in flexibilty probably because my gut isn't in the way, and my stamina is awesome! My BJJ has definitely improved where I am confident about my trip to Brazil. I wish I felt like this back in 1996-97 where I was active in the Dog Brothers. I think I would have been alot better stickfighter than I was then. Anyway, just my .02 Alvis www.solismartialarts.com --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Steven Lefebvre" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:41:42 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Sama Sama 2003 review (this is a little long) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sayoc Kali Sama Sama 2003 Review With close to eighty participants from all over the United States, Canada, and even as far away as Sweden, as well as representatives of an Elite military unit, and Masters of various styles, this years Sayoc Kali Sama Sama, was great success! Held at the premiere Off Road East Coast adventure park, Paragon Adventure Park, (www.paragonap.com), in West Hazleton, PA. Starting on Thursday July 3rd, with some fantastic demonstrations and instruction by Tatang Baltazaar Sayoc, and his finger touch method, we quickly moved to Tuhon Roberto Torres and Kuntao/Silat (www.UnitedSilatAssociation.com) as well as the Sayoc Fighting System , and finally Shock entries by Tuhon Tom Kier. The material was starting to flow fast! As we moved on to July 4th, and just a couple of hours sleep, more and more Sayoc participants started arriving. Guro Blake and Guro Giangreco began a review and improvement of Transition drills 1-5. After practicing the various drills being highlighted Tuhon Kayanan and Guro Kayanan, taught Sayoc long blade methodology. Awesome entry and applications were taught in this segment. Both Tuhon and Guro Kayanan flow gracefully and can bring in highlights from various arts to share and help illuminate the various principals they were teaching us. Up next, was a special introduction to the Tactical Awareness school headed by Mike Jaco, a 24 year veteran of the Navy SEAL’s, and who’s list of accomplishments is far to long to list here, so head to his website at www.tacticalawareness.com for more information on the programs offered and his incredible resume`!!! Finally to wrap off the day, Guro Ray Dianaldo, http://warriorcraft.tripod.com taught the use of the kerambit and empty hand skills. July 6th, started with more instruction by Tatang Bo Sayoc, in the finger touch method. Tatang Sayoc, had the largest members dropping to the floor with the minimalist movement. Awesome material! As we arrived back at the training area, Tuhon and Guro Kayanan introduced the Sayoc Tomahawk template and applications. After a short break, Tatang Sayoc, and Guro Pat Consing taught and demonstrated more of the Sayoc Finger touch method. Removing people from a chair, dropping them with several quick touch points as well as just more and more material, another great introduction to Tatang Sayoc’s work. Next up, was Guro Ray Dionaldo, assisted by Guro Rico, and Guro Travis. Guro Dionaldo started off with close quarters stick work, and trapping applications and then moved on to Kerambit. Trapping, entering, disarming an opponent’s blade all flowed fast and furious with Guro Dionaldo’s usual flair! Keeping on with the material Tuhon Torres, assisted by his daughters, taught Sarong techniques and empty hand applications from Silat, Kuntao and Kuntao Silat. As he reviewed boxing attacks, his daughters hit the focus mitts with incredible power and speed. This lead into entering, and takedown tactics, for another great lesson for us all. During all of this teaching there was a round of quick draw competition, and then a projectile contest as well. As a final segment, my close friends Guro Carl and Guro Allain Atienza, taught the tactics of Atienza Kali. Guro Carl and Allain flowed effortlessly, moving and striking with power and grace! If you would like more information on the Atienza system, please go to www.Atienzakali.com. As the day started to wrap up, several rounds of the now infamous “Chopstick Wars” and finally Actionflex matches. Which ended up with Guro Carl Atienza taking first place! Using tactics directly from his earlier lessons, Guro Carl was great!! July 7th, started off with Guro Conroy, teaching Transition Drill 6. Ably assisted by Guro’s Kevin Blake and Bob Shin. We then moved off to start reviewing material from all the various Guro’s. Of course there was another round of quick draw competition, and the projectiles as well. Since one of the themes of this years Sama Sama was the Tomahawk, several of us brought out throwing hawks and were working on honing our skill. Many, of the practitioners were starting to head out, but I was very lucky to stay and was given an opportunity to interview Tatang Baltazaar Sayoc. Tatang Sayoc gave many insights to his early days in the USA, with various Filipino martial arts pioneers on the East Coast. Names such as Professor Vistacion, Grand Master Presas, Grand Master Gaje, Master Marinas, were all frequent guests at his school and home, and many stories were shared. He also offered insight into his life philosophy and his feelings on how strong the Sayoc organization is. What a great opportunity. Later that evening, I also had another great opportunity to interview Tuhon Torres, one of the early students of Tuhon Christopher Sayoc, who continues to practice Sayoc Kali, and remains a close friend of the Sayoc Family. As well as more insight highlighted on early Sayoc Kali training, from interviewing Tuhon Rafael Kayanan, and Guro Ricardo Kayanan, Guro Raymond Dionaldo, and Tuhon Tom Kier. We covered material from the Sayoc Combat Choreography group, and the movie “The Hunted”, to the Sayoc Tactical course, recent fights by Tuhom Kier at the DogBrothers Gathering, and much more. As we wrapped up the last day around 11:00pm, my brain was overloaded with material. As a last note, I would like to comment on awesome demonstrations given by Guro Ken Pannell (www.asianfightingarts.com), fantastic work!! If you missed this year’s Sama Sama, you definitely missed out on awesome training. Stay tuned for more information on Sayoc Kali events, and newly released DVD’s at www.Sayoc.com. Gumagalang Guro Steve Lefebvre www.Bujinkandojo.net _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 06:13:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Phillips To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Ceramic knives,Guns and Octopi Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 21:44:25 -0400 From: Musilat@aol.com ,Kurt, You seem too angry to own a gun Kurt. If psychological evaluations were required for gun ownership, I suspect many gun related problems would be solved. -Steve Kohn.> steve, I can only imagine the tragedies that would occur were such a ill-advised "oversight" scheme to be allowed. The notion that a psychologist, who is a member of a legislated monopoly of violence (which prevents other's from encroaching on his 'guild's' turf) against the general public, should be given a veto on anyone's ability to do ANYTHING of importance (not just guns but driving, martial arts, etc.) is noxious. It's meddlessome. It's injurious to freedom and to the legacy of liberty and autonomy that form the foundation of the civilization I am a part of. 'those who would give up liberty for a little safety deserve neither'. i would wish you the joy of a psychiatric evaluation as a precondition of your next dojo business license.. except that would cause pain to other people as well. I challenge you to spend some serious time in consideration of this idea. I'd also like to encourage everyone else to take the view I do about this sort of casual infringement on the rights of others to pursue their own way in this world. i show the scoundrels the door. regards, Brian Phillips 'train hard, bang often!" --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 06:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] Bob Torres Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Starting on Thursday July 3rd, with some fantastic demonstrations and > instruction by Tatang Baltazaar Sayoc, and his finger touch method, we > quickly moved to Tuhon Roberto Torres and Kuntao/Silat .... Wow, lots of titles in that report. :) Speaking of Bob Torres, what ever happened with the beefs he was in with the Bakbakan folks as well as the family of the late Prof. Vee [Florendo Visitacion (1910-1999)]? I just haven't heard anything of that for a couple of years and wondered how/if it was concluded. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 7 From: MarkLugtu@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:17:14 EDT Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Bob Torres To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net greetings, i would like to inquire if any member would suggest some fma club here in england, particularly near ashford middlesex. i'm really interested in enrolling. and could anyone give advise on self study. I'm 28 yrs old now and no hard martial arts background. i'm particularly interested in fma. i have couple of materials from book to video tapes, and i can fairly follow some basic techniques. my only aim is for physical fitness, and self-defence. and also to contribute in my own small way in preserving a part of my heritage. thanks so much in advance and more power. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest