Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 03:01:54 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #279 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Hardwood/Curved (Seraksatu@aol.com) 2. Re: curved sticks (Todd Ellner) 3. Iliopsoas Problem (POWERFACTOR71839@aol.com) 4. Strenthening/Stretches for Iliopsoas (Stephen Lamade) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Seraksatu@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 22:30:05 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Hardwood/Curved Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Selamat Mr William Schultz, Well that is a good combo, the Kamagong, then to have sticks in such manner can only be bad in full contact. Certainly a young man's game for sure. One of my students fought in Laredo Texas (Savate) and got one on the win side. Maybe the next time the other guy win. Train harder then the next guy. Now with sticks, In 1984 that was the last year I had major Injuries with my students, 90 % came in with cast and crutches, blown knee caps, just bad. That is why the Doce Pares gear and Kendo Gear has great Value to me, we all get to do it the next day. Plus Catcher Shin gear made also sense. Soempat Stick only for training, beyond that just to hard one to take. Fun training tool, and we get to train a other day Yes If you in this neck of the woods, please stop by Regards, Pak Vic > Same reason Kamagong/hardwood flat sticks are not a good idea to use full > contact. Smaller impact area delivers a more concentrated impact. I'll look > forward to trying out some Soempat sticks. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Todd Ellner To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 19:49:45 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: curved sticks Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > Greetings Pak Vic, > >>That is really interesting, in all of my years here in the US (Since 1960) >>I have not come in contact with curved sticks, but I could be wrong of >>course. >>In 2000 I did an article for Black Belt magazine giving honor to my teacher >>founder of Soempat (Forward Curved Sticks). Very interesting folks having >>the curved sticks now, that is great>> Dave Minden has always been a very innovative teacher. He took the FMA and Muay Thai in strange directions and a lot further than most people ever thought of. He also had the sense to get out and stop teaching martial arts when it wasn't fun any more. I trained with him in the early to mid 90s. He was using the curved sticks as a training aid for a number of things then - as targets for precision hitting with power, as weapons, as ways of getting students to wake up and take notice, etc. Dave has always been scrupulous about giving credit where it was due. If he got an idea from someone else (even if he took it further than his teacher had ever dreamed) he would certainly have mentioned the fact. When you think about it curved sticks and clubs can be found all over the place. A lot of Polynesian clubs, Native American maces and war clubs, that weird Indian weapon that is meant to be a copy of an elephant's tusk and so on. > I started training with Guro Daniels around 1997 and he had the sticks > then. > They were made by a former training partner of his sometime between the > late > 80's and early 90's. This guy was very good at coming up with unusual > training tools and ways to train. We used them more as a training tool > then > an actual weapon, but we would usually ramp things up after a bit and got > pretty good at countering them. That would be Dave, wouldn't it? His students could hit terribly hard and accurately. I remember once when they were working out at a local JKD teacher's school. They were Thai kicking the bag and kicked it so hard and so quickly that they tore it out of the ceiling! A lot of it is due to the interesting and effective training methods he kept coming up with. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: POWERFACTOR71839@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 23:06:35 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Iliopsoas Problem Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > I am wondering if anybody could give me some ideas about > strengthening/stretching the area. > Gord > > You need to see a specialist in ART. They deal with these things VERY well. Then contact Morgen Smith thru StraightBlastGym. She teaches the MMA fighters HardcorePilates. The psoas conditioning is very effective in this method. Other sources would be the books Superjoints and Relax into Stretch by Pavel Tsatsouline, who trained me in Kettlebell lifting. They are very detailed, but a bit pricey. You may prefer the tapes. Best of luck, Tom Furman RKC www.physicalstrategies.com --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Stephen Lamade" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 04:00:05 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Strenthening/Stretches for Iliopsoas Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Gordon, One "test" for iliopsoas tendonitis involves lying down and flexing the knee slightly. Try to lift the leg against a partner's resistance. If pain occurs and/or the motion of hip flexion is especially weak, iliopsoas tendinitis is a strong candidate for the cause. Assuming that your injury is healing and not exacerbated by exercise: Exercises for strengthening the iliopsoas generally involve trunk lifts with the legs straight and/or leg lifts. Here the idea is to do "sit ups" incorrectly. Make sure you do these slow and easy or you may reinflame the muscle/tendon. Also, be advised that there is also a bursa behind the tendon which may also be inflamed... Exercises for stretching the iliopsoas genererally involve flexing the opposite hip through some sort of lunge, as well as backbends. Note that with the lunge you can turn the back foot inwards as well as outwards to stretch both medial and lateral aspects. Yoga has many postures re. the above. You can find scores of stretches with a google search for: "iliopsoas+stretches" etc. Another exercise that I have heard described as a very one for stretching the iliopsoas involves lying on a massage tape with your hips balanced on the edge. Bending one knee and placing it on the edge, allow the weight of the outstretched other leg to engage the psoas. You'll need to use you hands on the edge of the table to keep your balance point (and not inadvertedly hurt your lower back). The psoas is generally accessible by manual therapy through the lower abdominal cavity. Passive stretches involving hip rotation in both directions is often very helpful. Osteopaths and cranialsacral therapists "unwind" the psoas using finger pressure; acupuncturists typically needle in the area just lateral to ST 25. Manual therapy on the lower back is often helpful due to the attachments of psoas to the lumbar spine, as well as relationships between the iliopsoas and the erector spinae and quadratus lumborum muscles, among others. Chronic iliopsoas inflamation can be slow to heal. I recently worked on a woman with a psoas tear which was extremely painful and very slow to heal. Diet and supplements can help some in these cases - but this usually takes quite a while (a year?) before the effects are felt. I would, personally, not use ice for this type of injury. I recommend "Anatomy Trains" by Thomas Myers for its excellent discussion of the iliopsoas in relation to other myofacia on the "Deep Interior Line," as well as the other "anatomy trains" discussed in other sections of his book. This will give you far more insight than my "scattergun" suggestions on an internet digest. Best, Steve Lamade _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest