Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 11:43:05 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #280 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Magnets (Andrew Heuett) 2. stances (gordon walker) 3. Curved Sticks 3 (William Schultz) 4. Curved Sticks 4 (William Schultz) 5. karambit (jason couture) 6. Elephant's Tusk/Mas Ray (Seraksatu@aol.com) 7. Re: stances (David Whitley) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 00:09:07 -0700 From: "Andrew Heuett" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Magnets Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hooey? First off, in my defense, I would like to point of my use of the word, "speculation." This word was used because I didn't have any necessarily correct understanding of how magnet therapy works. I did not present what may have been complete "hooey" for the reason of fooling anyone, but instead to present my idea of how it may work because of the lack of a clear reason at the time that I sent my previous e-mail. The conclusions I reached through reasoning, not scientific proof, were also not completely implausible. I can't think of any other reason a magnet could affect blood flow other than working on something magnetic, such as iron. I can't think of any other material in the human body that would respond significantly to magnetism, but I also have yet to read the information to which someone posted a link. By writing this, I mean only to make it clear that I wasn't trying to sell anyone "hooey." My post was only a (key word--->) SPECULATION. -Andrew Heuett ________________________________________________________________ Get your own evilemail.com address at http://www.evilemail.com --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 01:32:16 -0400 (EDT) From: gordon walker To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] stances Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net HI, I was just wondering if I could get some feedback on the issue of stance/footwork as it relates to ... combat I suppose. I was at a conditioning class the other day and the instructor had us pretty much squared up to the front. Rear foot toe in line with the front foot heel. My ethic up until that point was a Bijong stance, or something approximating that, with my rear foot well behind my front foot. Strong side forward, very much angled off to the front offering a smaller target. I find that my jabs are very weak with this stance. I am unsure of the squared off stance in terms of power generation, still. Theoretically, I think it would offer more in terms of power. Of course, I am only thinking of this in terms of empty hands/striking applications. Maybe stick/ knife would be a different story, where I would want to be more angled off from my opponent. I wouldn't mind some experienced insight into this new wrinkle. Gord --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "William Schultz" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 08:00:10 -0400 Subject: [Eskrima] Curved Sticks 3 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Greetings Todd, >>Dave Minden has always been a very innovative teacher. He took the FMA and Muay Thai in strange directions and a lot further than most people ever thought of. He also had the sense to get out and stop teaching martial arts when it wasn't fun any more. I trained with him in the early to mid 90s. He was using the curved sticks as a training aid for a number of things then…… That would be Dave, wouldn't it? His students could hit terribly hard and accurately. I remember once when they were working out at a local JKD teacher's school. They were Thai kicking the bag and kicked it so hard and so quickly that they tore it out of the ceiling! A lot of it is due to the interesting and effective training methods he kept coming up with.>> Todd, You are correct. I was able to experience a lot of training concepts and functional training aids of his through JD. I was having a little trouble remembering his last name, I kept coming up with Burke, but I knew that wasn’t correct. I was getting ready to give JD a call to get it right. Thanks for reminding me. >>When you think about it curved sticks and clubs can be found all over the place. A lot of Polynesian clubs, Native American maces and war clubs, that weird Indian weapon that is meant to be a copy of an elephant's tusk and so on.>> I recently came across a Native American Ball Club. They wanted more than I could pay for it. I’m not sure how “authentic” it is, but it appears to be quite old, and I’ve seen some similar ones in some of the books I have on the subject. It also has a forward curve to it. It’s decorated in Northwest Coast Indian style carvings ending with a carved wolfs head with the mouth open and holding a baseball sized rounded stone. Obviously this thing could deliver some crushing blows. You still training with Nerrin & the crew? William Schultz New England Pekiti-Tirsia Pitbulls Mongrel Combative Systems _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "William Schultz" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 08:09:04 -0400 Subject: [Eskrima] Curved Sticks 4 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Greetings Bob, >>Is there a template for making the curved sticks...I'm interested in >>seeing one...V/r, Bob>> I am not aware of any templates our places to purchase them. I am planning to make some after I get done with some full contact helmets I’m modifying at the moment. Here is the link if you want to check them out. http://philelmore.com/martial/helmets.htm Just an FYI, the address and Ph# listed are not valid anymore. William Schultz New England Pekiti-Tirsia Pitbulls Mongrel Combative Systems _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 07:56:10 -0700 (PDT) From: jason couture To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] karambit Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Does anyone know where to buy an AFFORDABLE karambit or folding karambit? I've seen the prices from some of the better known knife companies but, I don't work on wall street so, I can't afford $200-$300 for a blade! Someone out there must make a karambit for the everyday joe. ===== **JASON COUTURE** __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Seraksatu@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 12:16:58 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Elephant's Tusk/Mas Ray Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Selamat Mas Ray: Good responses from the tread in what you have asked of me of the Soempat stick, although I cannot ask Pak Tisari, founder of Soempat of he copied from an Elephant's tusk or not, since he has past and he is from west Java and not from Sumatra were there are Elephants. I will ask my older cousin Jan de Vries in Surabaya, he knew Pak Tisari longer. Mr. Barinderpal Singh from London, one of my student is an avid Indian Culturist and an expert on history from India, he shared with me the amazing weaponry from India almost unbelievable in what they had. Somehow No Soempat Curved Stick, maybe he overlooked his own history, I must have a very serious talk with that man..........yeah right! He worked for the British Museum and Libraries. He sent me large Photos of his work, that will be hung in the Academy for all to see. So when you are in town, stop on by Mas Ray, I know you do a lot of teaching. On an other note there is really not to "think" of the ingenious of what man can do, history did that already in many publications. In our day Master Sol Kaihewailu from the Islands one of the Teachers at the Ring of Fire showed much of the Polynesian clubs and weaponry, that could fill a large moving truck. He saw the Soempat stick, and he has not seen this type of Curved Weapon stick in all his years in Hawaii, he is in his late sixties. Look at the Pyramids, and similar build structures in what man had done. Many of the relief's on the Temple of Borobudur in Mid Java, has lots of stone relief statues and very evident of lots of weaponry, those folks did not have to think, they did it, just as Pak Tisari developed his Soempat Curved Stick in 1952. Is there a diffenrence between a Mace, Club or a Curved stick to eliminate nah.......There is none, they all do the Job fine. Regards, Pak Vic > When you think about it curved sticks and clubs can be found all over > the place. A lot of Polynesian clubs, Native American maces and war > clubs, that weird Indian weapon that is meant to be a copy of an > elephant's tusk and so on. --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "David Whitley" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] stances Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 17:35:03 +0000 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Fighting stances only exist during traing or in the brief milliseconds before a fight begins,. fights occurr at ramming sprrd, one person ramming into the other. there is no "fighting stance". there is only balance in motion. in a real fight do you stand still so that you can be in the "sweet spot" for power? of course not. that is a training tool, to develop attributes like power, accuracy, sensitivity, etc.....find whats comfortable, train it, find whats not comfortable (i don't mean unnatural) and train it more. develop that ability to acvieve stillness in motion. david ----Original Message Follows---- From: gordon walker Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] stances Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 01:32:16 -0400 (EDT) HI, I was just wondering if I could get some feedback on the issue of stance/footwork as it relates to ... combat I suppose. I was at a conditioning class the other day and the instructor had us pretty much squared up to the front. Rear foot toe in line with the front foot heel. My ethic up until that point was a Bijong stance, or something approximating that, with my rear foot well behind my front foot. Strong side forward, very much angled off to the front offering a smaller target. I find that my jabs are very weak with this stance. I am unsure of the squared off stance in terms of power generation, still. Theoretically, I think it would offer more in terms of power. Of course, I am only thinking of this in terms of empty hands/striking applications. Maybe stick/ knife would be a different story, where I would want to be more angled off from my opponent. I wouldn't mind some experienced insight into this new wrinkle. Gord --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! 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