Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 20:28:03 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #281 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. kettlebell training (David Whitley) 2. Self Help thoughts (Marc Denny) 3. Re: Fighting Stances (al sardinas) 4. RE: magnets (Jesse Greenawalt) 5. Re: stances (Sonny Padilla) 6. Re: Re: Fighting Stances (David Whitley) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "David Whitley" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 17:37:26 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] kettlebell training Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net howdy all. i will be conducting a russin kettlebell workshop in nashville, tn on sept.13. email me for details. if you don't know what a kB is check out www.russainkettlebell.com. David Whitley, RKC _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Marc Denny" To: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 12:39:21 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Self Help thoughts Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Woof All: Gord wrote: > Hi, > I have self diagnosed myself as having iliopsoas tendintis. I am currently icing my lower back inguinal joint on the front and the side of my hip. I am also taking some ibuprofen for the inflammation. > I have been to a physiotherapist and have had some treatments and exercises prescribed, as the problem is chronic. > I am wondering if anybody could give me some ideas about strengthening/stretching the area. > Gord My knowledge of anatomy comes from learning about my own injuries-- where is the inguinal joint? Beginning from this confession of ignorance, I would offer the following: Inflammation/irritation/tendonitis tends in my experience tends to come from a misalignment causing the part in question to be overworked. Thus seem, the tendonitis of you iliopsoas is a SYMPTOM, but the CAUSE probably is to be found elsewhere. I would look: 1) Is either half of your pelvis rotated? Get adjusted and do rehab work. 2) Are your hip rotators tight and/or imbalanced? By hip rotators I mean those muscles that rotate the femur in the hip socket. In the great majority of people in the modern world there tends to be an imbalance wherein the external rotators dominate the internals. This has a strong tendency to pressure at the sacrum. Roger Machado's Yoga Jiu Jitsu (from which Guro I draws heavily for his Silat class warm-up) is outstanding in this regard (as well as overall) 3) Look to your feet/ankles for misalignment. If there is any, it could have consequences in the hips (hell, the knees, shoulders and neck too) 4) No doubt you are getting pro advice on stretching the ilio psoas and need no comment from me. I would add that you look into working the peak contraction of the glutes and the head of the hamstring which crosses the hip joint too in conjuntion with this. There should be good synergy at this time in quality ab work and stretching the quadratus lumborum as well. 5) Pilates could be a very good call. 6) Last but certainly not least, consider the possibility that your symptoms are manifestions of some sort of meridian issue i.e. do not look at it as as matter of the muscular-skeletal system but rather from a Chinese medicine point of view (e.g. lower back pain often is a matter of kidney-adrenal meridian blockage) and see if you find anything. HTH, Crafty Dog --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "al sardinas" To: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 16:12:59 -0400 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Fighting Stances Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Regarding fighting stances I have to disagree with what Mr. David Whitley wrote. Fighting stances are practical and do exist for empty hand, weapon and even on the ground fighting. It is the seasoned fighter that can utilize footwork and proper stance to defeat a person coming at ramming speed. Like a matador and a bull. On the ground it is patience that overcomes the aggressor. Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of Garimot System of Arnis > Message: 7 > From: "David Whitley" > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] stances > Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 17:35:03 +0000 > Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > Fighting stances only exist during traing or in the brief milliseconds > before a fight begins,. fights occurr at ramming sprrd, one person ramming > into the other. there is no "fighting stance". there is only balance in > motion. in a real fight do you stand still so that you can be in the "sweet > spot" for power? of course not. that is a training tool, to develop > attributes like power, accuracy, sensitivity, etc.....find whats > comfortable, train it, find whats not comfortable (i don't mean unnatural) > and train it more. develop that ability to acvieve stillness in motion. > > david --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Jesse Greenawalt" To: Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 17:35:47 -0400 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: magnets Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >From: "Andrew Heuett" >To: >Subject: [Eskrima] Magnets >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Hooey? First off, in my defense, I would like to point of my use >of the word, "speculation." This word was used because I didn't >have any necessarily correct understanding of how magnet therapy >works. I did not present what may have been complete "hooey" for >the reason of fooling anyone, but instead to present my idea of >how it may work because of the lack of a clear reason at the time >that I sent my previous e-mail. Mea Culpa; I meant no offense, and the "hooey" comment wasn't directed at you, rather the growing industry that hypes & sells questionable "alternative therapy" devices. Since I was responding to your post, however, that "hooey" flew your way was my fault. Please accept my apologies. But I still don't buy it. ;-) Jesse --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Sonny Padilla" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] stances Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 15:46:56 -0600 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi, My name is Sonny Padilla a practioner of Kali Ilustrisimo. As far as footwork is concerned which is an integral part of our sytem, the first footwork we teach is the shuffle similar to a boxing stance where we can move back and fort at ease maintaining your balance, next is the lutang or hanging footwork wherein from a forward stance you move your front leg (foot) in line to your back leg and hang in preparation to move forward, next is a variation of the lutang which is done by stepping back first ( to gain a distance) then hang leg and move forward, next is the retirada Ilustrisimo wherein the front leg is move back past you back leg and forth. Then we move to the inverted triangle switching front leg to the back and back to the front. From here we go the the hakbang paiwas or sidestepping which is simply step to the side at 45 degree angle at forward stance to your opponent. Next is hakbang paiwas plus one which is basically one more step added to the hakbang paiwas. Next we do the Lastico which means rubber band which is done by bending forward or backward depending on the strike whether the target is the head or a cut to the midsection. From here we to palihis which is meant for thrust attacks which is done simply by evading the thrust by twisting your torso and shifting your weight to either the left or right foot and for all of you folks if you happen to be in our area please feel free to drop by our gym which is located at 4611 B 50th. Ave. , Red Deer, Alberta. Canada, T4N 3Z9 or call 403-343-3350. You are all welcome to train in our facility or if you want to join our seminars please do not hesitate to call. Sonny Padilla >From: gordon walker >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [Eskrima] stances >Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 01:32:16 -0400 (EDT) > >HI, >I was just wondering if I could get some feedback on the issue of >stance/footwork as it relates to ... combat I suppose. > >I was at a conditioning class the other day and the instructor had us >pretty much squared up to the front. Rear foot toe in line with the front >foot heel. >My ethic up until that point was a Bijong stance, or something >approximating that, with my rear foot well behind my front foot. Strong >side forward, very much angled off to the front offering a smaller target. >I find that my jabs are very weak with this stance. I am unsure of the >squared off stance in terms of power generation, still. Theoretically, I >think it would offer more in terms of power. >Of course, I am only thinking of this in terms of empty hands/striking >applications. Maybe stick/ knife would be a different story, where I would >want to be more angled off from my opponent. >I wouldn't mind some experienced insight into this new wrinkle. >Gord > > > >--------------------------------- >Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 1700 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "David Whitley" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: Fighting Stances Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 03:14:27 +0000 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Mr. Sardinas, I was in a bit of a rush when i wrote the post, so i think i didn't get the point across as well as i would have liked. i was trying to point out the difference between a "stance" ( static, rigid, unmoving) and "footwork"(alive , flexible, practical). As soon as you move, you are doing footwork, you are no longer in a "stance." i think that we are saying much the same thing. perhaps this is just the way my brain catagorizes things. Respectfully, David Whitley ----Original Message Follows---- From: "al sardinas" Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net To: Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Fighting Stances Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 16:12:59 -0400 Regarding fighting stances I have to disagree with what Mr. David Whitley wrote. Fighting stances are practical and do exist for empty hand, weapon and even on the ground fighting. It is the seasoned fighter that can utilize footwork and proper stance to defeat a person coming at ramming speed. Like a matador and a bull. On the ground it is patience that overcomes the aggressor. Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of Garimot System of Arnis > Message: 7 > From: "David Whitley" > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] stances > Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 17:35:03 +0000 > Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > Fighting stances only exist during traing or in the brief milliseconds > before a fight begins,. fights occurr at ramming sprrd, one person ramming > into the other. there is no "fighting stance". there is only balance in > motion. in a real fight do you stand still so that you can be in the "sweet > spot" for power? of course not. that is a training tool, to develop > attributes like power, accuracy, sensitivity, etc.....find whats > comfortable, train it, find whats not comfortable (i don't mean unnatural) > and train it more. develop that ability to acvieve stillness in motion. > > david _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 1700 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. 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