Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 19:25:02 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #326 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Illustrisimo/Lameco knee defense and follow up comments (Marc Denny) 2. Where to buy sticks in Seattle (Joe Balabis) 3. Doce Pares Eskrima Instructor Course (Ollie Batts) 4. Who's the Lucky Instructor? (al sardinas) 5. Knuckles and Hard Contact (al sardinas) 6. Re: Emmanuel Hart (Bill Lowery) 7. Kettlebells for martial arts (Ray Terry) 8. Re: Where to buy sticks in Seattle (Ray White) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Marc Denny" To: Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 01:10:35 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Illustrisimo/Lameco knee defense and follow up comments Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Woof All Leo wrote: BEGIN 1. Are there any Ilustrisimo practitioners out there? If there are none, I'll direct my question to fellow lawyer Marc Denny. Question: Does Kali Ilustrisimo have techniques against lowline attacks to the knee, either from a standup fighting position or a sudden diving crouch/squat just like Eric Knaus does in the "Real Contact Stickfighting" Tapes? I am asking this query in line with your statement that after you introduced the Ilustrisimo cross step (BTW, is that the Retirada Ilustrisimo on PG Sulite's tapes?), then the DB fighters ceased to rely on sudden low line squat attacks. END My only direct Ilustrisimo training comes as part of my Inosanto Blend training from Guro Inosanto who learned from Melicio I. in Stockton. I should know this with confidence, (but I don't) but I think Tatang I. was his nephew-- at any rate they were related. That said, I think it safe to say that there is a lot of Tatang Ilustrisimo in Lameco. PG Edgar told me so, and I think those conversant with both systems will agree. PG Edgar called the cross step the Ilustrisimo Cross Step (or the "Retirada I.") in order to give credit to the source of his understanding of it. Forgive me for craftily working in the advertisement, but the answer to your question can be found in DBMA#3: "Combining Stick and Footwork" in the section on knee attacks and defenses. Three knee attacks are shown: Top Dog's low line squatting backhand, Salty's combination learned from Derobio, and my preferred one learned from Inosanto-LaCoste. All three are shown in action, then the Ilustrisimo cross step is taught and shown in action. The gist of it as is that the stick simultaneously counterattacks while the front leg is cross-stepped back and then sprung forward. HTH. Just a brief follow up on the matter of injuries in our fighting. Considering what we do, I think the level of injuries quite low. This is not to say that we do not have some pretty serious injuries from time to time. The transformational power of the experience is not available in the absence of genuine risk. It is not for me to tell people what to do or how to train, but I feel obliged by my role as Guiding Force to raise the matter of IQ protection skills precisely because I saw the level of strong head shots taken at this last Gathering as drifting into unmaintainable territory. The point is to walk as a warrior for all our days, not to have hands which can't knock on a door (sorry :-) ) or reduced IQ. That said, as a teacher I have opinions. In DBMA the logic of the sytem is to deal with the primal first. Thus in the first series in #1 the first thing that was taught was four power shots. In the second series in DBMA #3 (ie the first of the instructional videos) the first thing that was taught head and knee protection while moving the feet. If you can hit hard, protect your head and knees, you are much more likely to come out of the experience the better for it. There's much more to it than that of course, but these skills are a good place to start IMO. Woof, Crafty Dog --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Joe Balabis" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:48:20 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Where to buy sticks in Seattle Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Does anyone out there know where I can get some good quality sticks in the Seattle area? There are Martial Arts supplies listings in the phone book, but I'd rather get first-hand advice by knowledgable practitioners. Thanks. Joe _________________________________________________________________ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:12:20 +0100 From: Ollie Batts To: Subject: [Eskrima] Doce Pares Eskrima Instructor Course Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Doce Pares Eskrima Instructor Seminar Series in Cambridge With Danny Guba, 9th Degree Black Belt under Cacoy Canete Many training seminars nowadays offer a great deal of excitement and fun, and can also provide a chance to see old friends and meet and make new ones. The training material on offer, however, generally consists of a mixed bag of techniques. Although this provides an opportunity to get a flavour of a particular art, this does not really allow seminar attendees to take away very much from the art itself. Bucking the trend a little, Cambridge Academy of Martial Arts (CAMA) is currently offering a few remaining places on a series of training seminars featuring Grand Master Danny Guba and the Doce Pares Eskrima system. Each session will concentrate on the training syllabus of the Doce Pares system, rather than take a technique from here, there and everywhere. This means that anyone attending these sessions will be able to learn specific sections from the syllabus. This is essential for anyone with a view to becoming an effective instructor in the Filipino Martial Arts in general, and the Doce Pares system in particular. If you feel that your training, and skills, in Eskrima / Arnis / Kali lacks substance, then sign up today for one of only a few remaining places on this course - which is effectively an instructor training programme. As I have already intimated, places will be limited, and they are running out fast. People can either sign up for blocks of three sessions at a time, or, especially if pre-booking, they may be able to attend on a casual basis. The first session is on Sunday 21st September, from 11am 'til 4pm. The second session is on Sunday 5th October, again from 11am 'til 4pm. Thereafter, sessions will be held on the first Sunday of each month. Please either e-mail me for further information: or else check out our website: http://www.cambridgemartialarts.com Ollie Batts Director CAMA --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "al sardinas" To: Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:40:49 -0400 Subject: [Eskrima] Who's the Lucky Instructor? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Will the luckiest instructor on earth please step forward and give us the details. See edited news clip below. To all the female members of ED, please excuse my seemingly adolescent request. Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of Garimot System of Arnis NEW YORK (AP) - Lucy Liu practices kali-eskrima-silat, a martial art involving sticks and knives. And while she's shown off her skills in the "Charlie's Angels" movies and "Shanghai Noon," she's never had to use them to defend herself in real life. "Thank God, no, but it has made me more aggressive," the 5-foot-3-inch actress told Jane magazine for its October issue. "If somebody is confrontational or rude, it makes me more confident. It's like, 'No, you don't treat somebody that way.' It gives you an inner strength And that's what martial arts should be; it should come from inside." --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "al sardinas" To: Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:15:53 -0400 Subject: [Eskrima] Knuckles and Hard Contact Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I agree with Steve Kohn's comments about Guro Garry's knuckles. Disfigured knuckles is not a true sign of FMA brotherhood but IMO a sign of poor skill. Should women have disfigured knuckles? I hope not. Regarding Doc Fung's answer to Guro Nate Defensor's question of whether one can be a good fighter without hard contact - excellent explanation of how to be a good fighter. But to give Guro Defensor a complete answer to his question, the answer is Yes. A good fighter who has developed the skills that Dr. Fung prescribes(superior timing, rhythm and control of distance) will be able to hurt you without receiving hard contact or any contact at all. Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of Garimot System of Arnis --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Bill Lowery" To: Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 18:08:15 +0100 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Emmanuel Hart Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Guys, Thanks to all for the help. Bill --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] Kettlebells for martial arts Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net fwiw... Kettlebells: The Martial Artist's Strength Tool of Choice, by Steve Cotter http://www.kbnj.com/KettlebellsForMartialArtists.htm Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Ray White" To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Where to buy sticks in Seattle Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 15:24:21 -0500 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Andy Wilson at the Kali Group Seattle has some. Nice guy too! Ray White ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Balabis" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 2:48 AM Subject: [Eskrima] Where to buy sticks in Seattle > Does anyone out there know where I can get some good quality sticks in the > Seattle area? There are Martial Arts supplies listings in the phone book, > but I'd rather get first-hand advice by knowledgable practitioners. Thanks. > > Joe > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get 10MB of e-mail storage! 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