Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 03:03:43 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #343 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. RE: Well done Tony (Patrick Davies) 2. SD Pilgrimage? (Marc Denny) 3. Re: Tony Martin - comment for Crafty (Bill Lowery) 4. querry for thin sticks (Brian Phillips) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 21:49:21 +0100 From: "Patrick Davies" To: , Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Well done Tony Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: "Marc Denny" but, to be politely blunt, you have kept refferring to this cause celebre despite a lot of responces from the brits that might perhaps indicate your barking up the wrong bush! the rights of any man to live in peace and without fear may not always go hand in hand with law even if we consider them t valid tenants. If i recall, the burglar was trying to get out of the entry point after being suprised and realising the house was turned into a trap. the suggestion is that Martin wa in a state of fear and acted in that. However he has stated otherwise. So your point is somewhat in conflict with what is supposed to have happened. wrong. shooting people is effectively only legal if you are allowed to have a weapon and generally acting in defence of the crown. Otherwise an illegal firearm is illegal and any action therefore is wrong. the army and police etc serve the crown, all of us on this isle are merely subjects. Quaint eh. difference being is that you are talking of moral justice. The woman holding the scales has a blindfold on in order so that all are fairly treated but history tells us that isnt the case. Justice is blind and serves those who control the wealth (imho). he wasnt in iminent danger although he was in a state that had been disturbed due to the actions of the 'scum'. He had in a different time used the gun threateningly to others where he was not in danger. He was wrong to have the gun and wrong to use it therfore. he couldnt if he had tried as he took the stairs away i believe at the time. some form of trap but i may be mistaken. i often am ; ). regardless of whether the man is or isnt an idiot, tormented by scum, you are trying to make a cause celbre out of something that simply shouldnt be and isnt to anyone i know. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Marc Denny" To: Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:27:45 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] SD Pilgrimage? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Woof Pat: Pat wrote: "He's not being sued as they exposed the burgler as being a liar. When you are over Marc, I'll get Krishna to take you to see the place if you want ; ) We'll don tin hats for protection just in case he shoots at us! Only an hour or twos drive, " Is this now a Mecca for SD nuts? :-) Anyway looking forward to my return to England. I'll be flying overnight Thursday, arriving Friday, and leaving Monday --just in time to repeat the process the next weekend for Rome. At least the one to England is a non-stop flight! Yip! Crafty --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Bill Lowery" To: Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 23:15:17 +0100 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Tony Martin - comment for Crafty Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Crafty, >I do not know if the man shot in the back was shot in the house or outside. < The "man" was a sixteen year old who wasshot inside the house and was described as being "small for his age". The general appearance (my opinion based on the huge amount of press we've had over here in Blighty) given is that Martin was aiming low (leg shots?) and hit the boy in the lower back. The boy climbed over a fence outside the house, collapsed - presumably from shock - and bled to death. Whilst it is true that Martin did not go out looking for the boy - lets face it if you've just been "attacked" in your own home and have successfully driven the attackes outside, most people would NOT follow them, but stay inside dealing with the after effects of adrenaline (shaking, sweating, rapidly going to the lavatory!). Brendan Fearon (the survivor) ran for his life leaving the boy to whatever fate was in store for him! Nice company the boy kept. Brendan Fearons attempt at a legal claim for lost earnings - he claimed he was unable to work, train in martial arts, and that his love life had suffered - (! - he is a career thief so not being able to run away has lost him a lot of work ;-) ) was dropped after a national newspaper videoed him out running one day!. Whilst most of the people I know try to take an overview of the situation, generally the idea that Martin is a "threat" to burglars - well, erm, cough, poor them! Bill --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 20:41:01 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Brian Phillips To: "eskrima@martialartsresource.net" Subject: [Eskrima] querry for thin sticks Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi all, Can some of the old hands point me in the direction of a scource for really thin escrima/arnis sticks? These are maybe half the diameter of the normal rattan (same length) and are good for dueling types of sparring... My practice partner is not really up to playing full contact with the bigger rattan and I want to keep him in good shape so I can beat on him for a longer period of time (joke!). On a completely unrelated note.. FMA in New Hampshire, anyone on the list from there? I got some questions offlist if possible.. Thanks, Brian --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest