Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 03:01:51 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #381 - 2 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. dr mik (gordon walker) 2. [The_Dojang] Interesting Article...Korean Swords (fwd) (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 18:02:21 -0500 (EST) From: gordon walker To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] dr mik Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi, I was wondering if Mik knew of any remaining martial arts traditions regarding the Souix. I am Cree from northern Manitoba, Canada and there are not a lot of traditions left over in regards to where I come from. The Souix that I know have a strong regard for their traditions and values. I think that they would have kept some of their old ways alive. Gord --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 16:43:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] [The_Dojang] Interesting Article...Korean Swords (fwd) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Forwarding a post from our other list... Ray Development of Korean Swords 1995 by Robert W. Young ------------------------------------------------------- The oldest swords in Korea's museums are called "jik do," with straight double-edged blades. Among others, the National Museum in Kyungju and the National Museum of Korea in Seoul exhibit some primitive but interesting specimens, all in various states of decay. Scholars believe that ancient sword-making skills came from China. Korean technicians then worked to refine the imported technology over the centuries. For the modern martial artist who wants to start or add to his collection, functional swords are currently available in two varieties in Korea, the "gum" (from the Chinese word "jien") and the "do" (from the Chinese word "dao"). The gum (also spelled geom or kum) is a light double-edged weapon with a grip that accommodates only one hand. It is intended mostly for thrusting techniques. The do is a much heftier weapon and has a handle large enough for both hands. The blade is razor sharp on one side only and intended for slashing techniques. Korean sword makers developed quite advanced manufacturing techniques which helped spread the reputation of Korean blades throughout the region. It is widely believed that Japanese sword-making skills originated from imported Korean methods. Japanese craftsmen proceeded to happily perfect the skills, while in Korea the rise of Neo-Confucianism led to official disdain for the arts of war there. Consequently, the militaristic society of feudal Japan encouraged weapons-making, while the scholastic society of Korea despised it. Korean sword-making technology was left to stagnate. Had it been otherwise, Korean long swords might have been prized by modern collectors around the world, just as Japanese "katana" are today. Some Korean museums display pre-World War II Japanese swords, often with plaques erroneously saying they are of Korean origin. A few simple techniques help distinguish Korean and Japanese swords, both in the museum and in the sword shop. Near the blunt edge of a Japanese blade, one usually finds a longitudinal channel, or blood grove. Korean swords do not have this. The tips of Japanese swords have angular lines where different cutting edges have been shaped. Korean swords tend to be smooth from the blunt edge to sharp edge, with no straight lines running the length of the blade. The Japanese wrap the handles of their swords with thin strips of cloth, but Koreans usually construct theirs of wood. Additionally, sheaths to Japanese-style swords--at least the ones found in Korea--usually are of smooth black wood (or some imitation). Korean sheaths are much more extravagant, often crafted from gold or mother of pearl. Occasionally Buddhist symbols (reversed swastikas) are used. Metal bands and lashing rings are also attached. A great number of old swords remains out of circulation, locked away in the houses of collectors who resist showing them out of fear of government confiscation. The only way these valuable blades can be seen is by developing a friendship with someone who happens to own some, then convincing him or her to let you take a peek. If that is not possible, the museums remain your best bet. _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list, 1500 members The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest