Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 08:38:03 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #430 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. French Cane Fighting (Argyll) 2. Inayan Eskrima (Emanuel Hart) 3. Re: KKK (Sam Bell Jr) 4. Re: KKK (LUNGHSING@aol.com) 5. harimaw buno (charles m sullivan) 6. Urban myths (Felipe Jocano) 7. Re: Urban myths (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Argyll" To: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 23:17:59 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] French Cane Fighting Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Here are some links on the topic: http://www.savateaustralia.com http://www.batoncanne.com http://ejmas.com/jnc/jncart_vigny_0500.htm http://ejmas.com/pt/ptart_morin_0803.html Best regards, Jake -----Original Message----- Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:09:59 -0500 (EST) From: gordon walker To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] cane fighting Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net HI, I saw a documentary on the History channel last night. It featured Savate and they went into a little bit of cane fighting that the French gentlemen of old used for self defense. Any info out there? It looked very flowery, in some respects, but they had a lot of power shots interspersed throughout. I saw some stuff with the footwork that impressed me. Gumagalang, Gordon --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Emanuel Hart" To: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:05:10 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Inayan Eskrima Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello to all, I wanted to offer some insight in to the questions about the Inayan KDM strikes 11 & 12. I have seen some replies and do not want to contradict anyone and their understanding of the moves but I did want to offer my insight. In my experience often people look into a specific move or technique and miss the concept all together. Not to say that is what happened in this case. I applaud the courage to ask the question. Within the Inayan System of Eskrima regardless of the specific style, i.e. Inayan Serrada, Inayan Kadena de Mono, the angles of attack are meant to be a general reference of trajectory and target area. The intentions of the attack can and will vary depending on the context of the situation, i.e. Espada y Daga, double knife, hand to hand, grappling ext. Within the Inayan System the angles of attack within KDM are barrowed from Inayan Serrada for the purpose of training and structure. The original intentions of the attacking angles within Inayan Serrada are hard to specify. Suro Mike Inay on many occasions referred to working around armor and specified changes depending on the weapon that is being employed i.e. stick or blade. However, remember that the only reason for angles of attack is reference in training and when it comes to combat either you hit your opponent or you don’t. I hope my insight has given those interested something useful. Until the next, train hard and be safe. Regards, Emanuel Hart Inayan Masirib Guro www.inayaneskrima.com hart@inayaneskrima.com Inayan Systems International --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Sam Bell Jr" To: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:23:04 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: KKK Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net As the late, great John Wayne once said, "Never apologize, it's a sign of weakness". I am sure we all know you meant no harm with your post. Sam --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 10:10:52 -0500 From: LUNGHSING@aol.com To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: KKK Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello all, I agree with Tim. You have to have a sense of humor. Years ago, as a tyke, my extended family was on vacation in the Smokey Mountains and we were preparing to tube down Deep Creek. My father was marking our innertubes with our initials ( his was JLH, mine was JSH, etc..). He innocently marked my uncle's tube with his initials...his name was Kenneth Keith Kimball. When Uncle Kenny saw his innertube he looked at my father and said " What are you trying to do Jimmy, get me killed?". There are 2 rules in life: 1) Don't sweat the small stuff and 2) Mostly, it's all small stuff --__--__-- Message: 5 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 14:57:37 -0600 From: charles m sullivan Subject: [Eskrima] harimaw buno Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Dear Group, I am organizing a seminar to bring Gat Puno Abon out to Springfield Missouri next April. I will be asking him to concentrate on Harimaw Buno and Hilot for the weekend. Please check out his website www.garimot.com for more information about this method of wrestling. All you St. Louis people who liked his seminar and felt the joint locks, head cranks, and chokes let me know if you want some more. I want to organize a fun focused and challenging weekend complete with a BBQ feast on Saturday night. But I need to know who would be interested. Take Care, Chuck --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 02:48:58 -0800 (PST) From: Felipe Jocano To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Urban myths Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi everyone: I don't know if this has been discussed here on this list, but.... Sometime ago, I was given the printout of a discussion on another FMA egroup about a list called the 10 Top Urban Myths of Martial Arts that appeared in Inside Kungfu Agust 2003 issue. I took a look at my copy of that issue and in that list (if you have a copy it's on page 124) and #6 says "The Spaniards forbade the practice of escrima by the Filipinos." Now this is listed as an urban myth, i.e., not true. What do you guys think about a statement like this? Out of curiosity, has this been discussed on this list? Respectfully, Bot __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Urban myths To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:28:31 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > I don't know if this has been discussed here on this > list, but.... > Sometime ago, I was given the printout of a discussion > on another FMA egroup about a list called the 10 Top > Urban Myths of Martial Arts that appeared in Inside > Kungfu Agust 2003 issue. I took a look at my copy of > that issue and in that list (if you have a copy it's > on page 124) and #6 says "The Spaniards forbade the > practice of escrima by the Filipinos." Now this is > listed as an urban myth, i.e., not true. What do you > guys think about a statement like this? > Out of curiosity, has this been discussed on this > list? Seems like it might have, can't recall now. Would be in the list archives. But being logical for a moment... the Spanish used one tribe to fight against another, yes? Seems like they would have encouraged the tribes affiliated with them to train however they wanted as long as they were effective in battle...??? Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest