Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:53:02 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #442 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Question for Gat Puno Abon, Dit Da Jow (jsbelljr83@earthlink.net) 2. Tuhon Ray Dionaldo (Steven Lefebvre) 3. Re :Cross training (garry bowlds) 4. A Little Serrada Get Together (garry bowlds) 5. DDJ recipes (Ray Terry) 6. Re: Escrima drills (carson mcdonald) 7. Re: Re: Escrima drills (Leo Daher) 8. Filipino Hilot treat for bruises and Arthritis (GatPuno@aol.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:57:33 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: jsbelljr83@earthlink.net To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Question for Gat Puno Abon, Dit Da Jow Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I have been using a product called China-Gel for almost a year and it works great!!! I am almost 40 and train with kids 1/2 my age, so my old muscles get sore from time to time. The great thing about China-Gel is it is not greasy and you can put it on even when you are wearing dress shirts without having to worry about staining the shirt. You can check the site out: www.chinagel.com. Stay safe, Sam --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Steven Lefebvre" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 23:37:33 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Tuhon Ray Dionaldo Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Congratulations to Tuhon Dionaldo! He is a fantastic martial artist, and anyone would do well to train or meet him ! Just a clarification, the Sayoc Fighting System has been in existence for a long time. In 1991, the focus became"all blade, all the time." For more information on the Sayoc Fighting System, and Sayoc Kali, please go to www.Sayoc.com. Gumagalang Guro Steve Lefebvre - Kayan Dalawa Guro Sayoc Kali www.Bujinkandojo.net _________________________________________________________________ Take advantage of our best MSN Dial-up offer of the year — six months @$9.95/month. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:43:55 -0800 (PST) From: garry bowlds To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re :Cross training Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net After studying Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Shotokan Karate, and finally Serrada for several years in the San Francisco/San Jose California in the early 70s, I moved to Ft Wayne, Indiana in 1977. In the whole city, there were only 3 martial arts school (two Kenpo, one Tae Kwon Do). After my Serrada training, I wasn't interested in any of them, but just for fun, I joined the TKD school. One day, in the locker room after class one of my classmates (Alan McLuckie) asked me about my martial arts background. When I mentioned Escrima he nearly burst into tears! I discovered that he had been travelling all over the country studying various arts, and somewhere along the line he heard about Escrima but couldn't find an instructor anywhere (Escrima wasn't well know in the US at that time), and couldn't believe that after all that time that he would discover a FMA practiioner in his own hometown. He became my very first student (later, Rob McDonald and Benjie Berrie joined us) During his travels, one of the people he trained with was Jesse Glover (one of Bruce Lee's early students). Alan gave me my first introduction to Wing Chun and taught me the one-inch punch. He also told me about arts such as Silat and Bando which I had never heard of at the time, but later studied. To make a long story short... check out other martial arts schools in your area. Most of the time, you can join a class or two without paying. You never know who you'll meet. Also, be very vocal about your interest in the martial arts. Practice with sticks in public if allowed. I've met and studied with practioners numerous arts including Silat, Wing Chun, Thai Boxing, and Arnis in the days when these arts were virtually unknown in the US just because someone saw me playing with sticks or heard me talking about or demonstrating them. As a matter of fact, I was introduced to Escrima at a McDonald's Christmas party in 1975. I was working the night shift at the time. My boss knew I was into Karate, and knew someone on the day shift that was also into the martial arts that worked on the day shift (John Peterson). He introduced us and the rest is history. I've never been the quiet type, because I knew that being vocal was a great way to meet other practitioners. My friends used to say that the best martial artists were the one's who never talked about it, but I was an exception because I loved it so much. I also like being challenged to a friendly (or sometimes very unfriendly) match as a way to perfect my skills outside of a classroom situation against other MA practitioners or pure street fighters. I also learned long time ago that some of the best schools were in someone's garage or backyard. Many of these classes can't be found in phonebooks or on the Internet. Not long ago, thru my apartment manager, I found out that someone in my apartment complex was a long time practitioner of Escrima, but he moved before we had a chance to get together. You never know. Your next door neighbor could be your next teacher. Guro Garry __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:54:19 -0800 (PST) From: garry bowlds To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] A Little Serrada Get Together Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello Bay Area Escrimadors! I will be moving to the LA area next month but I would really like to meet some of you before I leave. I live in Palo Alto. How about a little Serrada get together at my place next weekend? If you're interested, let me know and I'll send you the directions. Bring snacks and drinks. Guro Garry __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:58:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] DDJ recipes Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > I was wondering if you could share the method of preparation for this and > the quantities used? There are several recipes for DDJ in the archives of this list. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "carson mcdonald" To: Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:03:12 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Escrima drills Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hey Betty Hmmmm, you are asking people to pass on knife fighting drills and techniques to your son so he can in turn teach them to other convicts to use for what purpose? May I suggest that your son try Tai Chi or Yoga to stay in shape. Just a thought. Carson Kali Ilustrisimo practitioner and prison guard. --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Leo Daher" To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Re: Escrima drills Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:15:00 -0500 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net As if it wasn't enough to have them pumping iron and boxing... That request sounded more like a joke than anything. ----- Original Message ----- From: carson mcdonald To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 7:03 PM Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Escrima drills Hey Betty Hmmmm, you are asking people to pass on knife fighting drills and techniques to your son so he can in turn teach them to other convicts to use for what purpose? May I suggest that your son try Tai Chi or Yoga to stay in shape. Just a thought. Carson Kali Ilustrisimo practitioner and prison guard. _______________________________________________ --__--__-- Message: 8 From: GatPuno@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:52:59 EST To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Filipino Hilot treat for bruises and Arthritis Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Steve, I am more than happy to share a little secret of the "Hilot Remedy" that we been using for generation for arthritis or bruises. request@martialartsresource.net writes: > > While having dinner a few weeks ago with Tom Sipin after the WEKAF regionals > the discussion turned to injuries and arthritis. Gat Puno, Tom mentioned you > told him to use a preparation of vinegar and ginger for arthritis. > I was wondering if you could share the method of preparation for this and > the quantities used? > > Thanks in advance Gat Puno, > > Steve Van Harn > Arnis Sikaran - Jornales System > Sandatahan > For Arthritis/Bruises : Vinegar bath: Preparation: 2 cup of hot water 1 cup of room temp vinegar Procedure: mix the vinegar and water, used it to soaked or wash the affected area for 10 to 15 minutes. Then wash it with regular warm water and apply the ginger rub as suggested dosage. Ginger Rub: Preparation: 8 oz. Fresh chopped ginger (alternative tumeric) 1 cup of alcohol (Gin, Vodka, Moonshine, Lambanog etc.) Procedure: place the 1 cup of alcohol, to one sauce pan, bring the alcohol to simmers in low heat burner. After seeing the bubble from the heat turn off burner. Place the warm alcohol to one glass container and add the chopped fresh ginger, soaked it over night and ready to used the next day. Rub the Ginger to affected area twice a day. Please if you see Guro Tom Sipin, send my regards to the Doce Pares group of Wiscounsin. Hope this will help you and other Eskrimadores, give it a try Salamat, Gat Puno Abon "Garimot" Baet Laguna Arnis Federation International US Harimaw Buno Federation Hilot Research Center USA E-mail: gatpuno@aol.com Website: garimot.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest