Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 03:01:48 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 10 #454 - 2 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. dit da jow (Stephen Lamade) 2. coconut breaking (Pete Sampogna) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Stephen Lamade" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 04:24:10 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] dit da jow Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Re. "Anybody have usage recommendations regarding effectiveness? Only immediately following "injury" or will it still be effective a week later, etc." Assuming that you’ve sought out competent medical advice (i.e., that you don’t have an injury for which merely using jow would be inappropriate) with following pertains to how I like to use jow: The general rule is to treat acute injuries with herbal formulas that are cooling or neutral in nature, and chronic injuries with herbal formulas that are warming in nature. For example, White Tiger Liniment from the Oriental Herb Company (a fairly good commercial liniment) would be better for acute injuries that are red, hot, and inflamed than Zheng Gu Shui, which might be better suited for old, chronic joint pain that gets worse in cold and damp weather. There are of course exceptions to this rule, which an experienced herbalist will take into account when making your formula. In addition, mass-produced commercial jows may be fairly good in quality, but will generally not stand comparison to what your herbalist can put together for you for specific problems. With respect to whether a dit da jow will still be effective a week after you first use it: It depends on the nature and severity of the injury. For acute injuries, if you find that the dit da jow that you’re using is immediately effective, then you keep using it until you feel that both the pain and swelling are gone. If it’s not effective, or only effective up to a point, then you should consider other treatment modalities. Either it’s not the right jow for the job, or else the problem is more severe than you originally thought. Some other things to consider: 1. Just as important as the jow is the fact that you are massaging the injury the correct way to help move qi and blood. 2. Chronic injuries often respond better if treated with a combination of jow and heat. 3. For stick hits specifically, the earlier you can treat the injury, the better. Soaking jow in cotton balls and wrapping them over your knuckle with some plastic wrap and tape is a good way to treat a sore knuckle overnight. 4. There's something about the possibility of chemicals leaching into a jow that makes me prefer glass bottles over plastic. Best, Steve Lamade _________________________________________________________________ Get dial-up Internet access now with our best offer: 6 months @$9.95/month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 19:22:41 -0500 From: Pete Sampogna To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] coconut breaking Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net while on my honeymoon in hawaii i watched a 95lb girl break 3 coconuts with minimal effort. She told us that the secret was to strike it between the largest spaced nodes in the middle. The breaks were achieved by lightly rapping them on a rock with about the same force that one would use to condition iron palm. I personaly tried this with a palm heel and it worked on a coconut. Costing me all the milk, which is why it is best not to perform this at the grocery store Pete Sampogna --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues available @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2003: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest