Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 03:01:49 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #87 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA list at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. list slow (Ray Terry) 2. Daivd Eke's reply to my remarks (Michael Massie) 3. Re: E-mail account security warning. (fwd) (Phil Elmore) 4. knife grapple (Q) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 17:19:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Eskrima] list slow Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Just fyi... The list will be slow for the next several days as I head out to a 3-day seminar. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Michael Massie" To: Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:44:34 -0600 Subject: [Eskrima] Daivd Eke's reply to my remarks Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Ray: My apologies for the following, but I felt I had to respond to yet another personal attack from Mr. Eke, since his most recent comments had more to do with my own integrity than Blaise's.) Hi David, I am compelled to reply directly to your question regarding my interest in Blaise's business even though the Blaise topic has been put to rest on the forum. Indeed, I have no "vested interests" in Blaise's dealings - I've got enough going on to keep me busy, and frankly, don't have the time or the inclination to invest in anyone else's business these days. Blaise is simply a fine instructor and my defense of his reputation has nothing to do with money. As for my comments on variations in spelling and sentence syntax (that were directed toward your post alone - sorry if some of the others on the discussion got the wrong impression), ***you missed my point entirely***. No matter. The topic is done and it is time to move on to other matters for discussion. By the way, "the pot calling the kettle black" would imply that I made a personal attack against your character, which I did not - it seems, however, that whenever your intellectual position is threatened that this is the tactic you fall back on, as demonstrated by your insinuation that I have a "vested interest" in Blaise's business. Once again, poorly done. However lacking your response might have been in intellectual propriety, I appreciate your willingness to at least attempt an adequate reply to my statements as well as your lively discussion on the topic. I believe it is *extremely* important to have open forums where the hardest questions can be asked regarding martial arts related topics. Thankfully, this list seems to fill that need handsomely. Now, let's drop this and get on to other matters. Take care and God Bless, Michael D. Massie MD Marketing, LLC E-mail massie@small-dojo-big-profits.com Web www.small-dojo-big-profits.com ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." President Theodore Roosevelt "Citizenship in a Republic," Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910 --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 17:46:34 -0800 (PST) From: Phil Elmore Subject: Re: [Eskrima] E-mail account security warning. (fwd) To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I've gotten a lot of these -- one even from administration@philelmore.com, telling me my own website was cutting me off! Ha. Ray Terry wrote:A "funny" spam/virus that may be going around. This is obviously bogus, but thought I'd give ya'll a heads-up anyway. Again... you will never get an attachment or spam from the list. Ray ========================================================================= Subject: E-mail account security warning. From: support@martialartsresource.net Some of our clients complained about the spam (negative e-mail content) outgoing from your e-mail account. Probably, you have been infected by a proxy-relay trojan server. In order to keep your computer safe, follow the instructions. For details see the attached file. For security purposes the attached file is password protected. Password is "26004". Sincerely, The Martialartsresource.net team http://www.martialartsresource.net [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Message.zip] _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 1800 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima -------------- - Phil Elmore --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:38:24 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Q To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] knife grapple Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net -----Original Message----- There was a conversation on this list a while ago on that subject. Look for "knife" and "grappling" in the archives. Marc Denny responded to a similar query. I believe he said that when he tried grappling with a knife with one of the Machado brothers (I think it was), he at first got the upperhand, but once Jean-Jacques realized what was happening, he pretty effectively smothered the weapon. If that's not correct, maybe Marc can jump in. I'm a pretty poor grappler but when I tried to train (all non-edged simulated weapons red handle spyderco etc.) this I found it much harder to not get cut when the blade got small sub 4". It was near impossible to out grapple a guy with a kerembit. The longer 8-12" blade was something you could screen out and just did not fit with the range. In fact once you got past the initial thrust/slash and started your trap/counter the 12" was pretty ineffective...but like a big bullet it only needs to hit you once. Personally I don't think I would like the 12" hot or the 1" kerembit rip so to me a cut is a cut. Furthermore, grappling is all about capitalizing or forcing your opponant to make a mistake. Sticking a 1" kerembit in the thigh while stuck under a mount works for me. Regards, Carlton H. Fung, D.D.S. Torrance, Ca. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest