Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 03:01:50 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #165 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. RE: Kali Kalis (Sonny Padilla) 2. jopet laraya (gordon walker) 3. Re: Kali Kalis (Ray Terry) 4. Emanuel Hart in Newcastle, UK (Bill Lowery) 5. turning down requests to study (Leo Salinel) 6. RE: Learning A particular style of escrima (Alex Ercia) 7. Re: jopet laraya (BladeRespect) 8. Re: jopet laraya (david foggie) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Sonny Padilla" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Kali Kalis Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:36:31 -0600 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Kali Ilustrisimo is the name I go by as it was agreed by myself and Tatang when he was still alive. The certificates he signed for his students clearly states Kali Ilustrisimo. Kalis Ilustisimo is now the name being used by Gm Tony Diego, Maste Yuli Romo, Master Rey Galang , and Master Chritopher Ricketts. Other masters like Romy Macapagal, Pete Reyes Norman Suanico, Robert Morales, Ernie Talag and Martin Raganas still go by the name Kali Ilustrisimo. Sonny Padilla Kali Ilustrisimo >From: Ray Terry >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [Eskrima] Kali Kalis >Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 09:45:35 -0700 (PDT) > > > i'd like to update your list on FMA > > >Kali Ilustrisimo. > > It's Kalis Ilustrisimo > >The bakbakan website seems to use both spellings. But it appears that >Kalis is more accurate. > >e.g. >=========================================================== >KALI ILUSTRISIMO > >Kali Ilustrisimo is a highly effective system of Filipino martial arts. >Presented by the First Generation Students of the art, this unique style is >demonstrated and explained in detail by Senior Instructors Christopher >Ricketts and Rey Galang. > >The Kali Ilustrisimo videotape series finally makes public the much sought >after and respected art of the late Grandmaster Antonio "Tatang" >Ilustrisimo. >=========================================================== > >Ray Terry >rterry@idiom.com >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 1900 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:41:44 -0400 (EDT) From: gordon walker To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] jopet laraya Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi, Does anyone have any info on Dr Jopet Laraya? Id like to know where hes located and if hes still teaching. Gord --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Kali Kalis To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Kali Ilustrisimo is the name I go by as it was agreed by myself and Tatang > when he was still alive. The certificates he signed for his students > clearly states Kali Ilustrisimo. Kalis Ilustisimo is now the name being > used by Gm Tony Diego, Maste Yuli Romo, Master Rey Galang , and Master > Chritopher Ricketts. Other masters like Romy Macapagal, Pete Reyes Norman > Suanico, Robert Morales, Ernie Talag and Martin Raganas still go by the name > Kali Ilustrisimo. Any idea as to why the change? Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Bill Lowery" To: Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 18:17:52 +0100 Subject: [Eskrima] Emanuel Hart in Newcastle, UK Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi, Inayan Masirib Guro Emanuel Hart will be teaching a workshop on the Kadena de Mano sub-system of the Inayan Eskrima system in Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, on the 30th of May. KdM covers the empty hand to knife and knife to knife area of the IES. Cost is £25, and the places are limited to 30. For more info contact me on; 07984 465 817 LbaanB@excite.com labanbaston.cjb.net Cheers Bill Lowery --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:23:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Leo Salinel To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] turning down requests to study Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Yes, Ray, it was quite common, then and now. For both valid and sometimes irrational reasons. Some have to do so for logistical reasons, such as time and space limitations, while others do so for reasons of (former) affiliation. ===== Earn $$ just by receiving and reading email! http://www.resource-a-day.net/member/index.cgi?Brandon96 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Alex Ercia" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 14:24:56 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Learning A particular style of escrima Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net To all who do not know, Arnis/Eskrima/Kalis was hard to learn in the Philippines. Because the old masters did not just take you in as a student just because you were paying for the lessons. You are lucky if the master will talk to you. I remember when I was trying to find for an instructor to teach me arnis you had to convice the teacher to teach you. If he did not like the way you looked, talked, asked, or carried yourself he would ignore you. This was my experience. And I am filipino. The masters would sometimes say "Hindi ako nagtuturo sa mga kabataan. Dahil sila ay mapupusok. Gagamitin lang nila ito sa kalye."-I won't teach the young ones. Because they are too aggressive. They will only use it to pick fights on the streets. Be thankful that the masters are teaching their art here openly to get internationally recognized. I myself once asked Tony Diego to teach me. He declined because I am a student under another style. It is very common. The Filipino's by nature are careful of who they teach their knowledge to. Because some schools feel if you come another school you will only learn or steal their secrets and show it to your old school. Crosstraining was a mortal sin.(funny but true!) You had to know someone who is a relative or close to the master to introduce you and maybe observe you at first. We call them NINONG-godfather literally but like a friend of passage. If the master trusted your ninong it carried over. This is still common now a days. Alex _________________________________________________________________ Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar – FREE! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/ --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 17:41:01 -0400 (EDT) From: BladeRespect Subject: Re: [Eskrima] jopet laraya To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I heard he's gone back to the Phils... --- gordon walker wrote: > Hi, > Does anyone have any info on Dr Jopet Laraya? Id > like to know where hes located and if hes still > teaching. > Gord > > > > > --------------------------------- > Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 1900 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts > Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 20:02:18 -0700 (PDT) From: david foggie Subject: Re: [Eskrima] jopet laraya To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Dr. Jopet Laraya is presently residing in Hong Kong and is often in the Philippines, I believe. He has an article on Granadmaster Johhny F. Chiuten in the latest issue of 'Rapid Journal' martial arts magazine. David --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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