Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 03:01:49 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #173 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Crossfit is great! (Verzejd@aol.com) 2. Re: FMA FAQ updated (isagani abon) 3. Re: FMA FAQ updated (Ray Terry) 4. arnis or kali? (Leo Salinel) 5. Re: arnis or kali? (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Verzejd@aol.com Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:27:34 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Crossfit is great! Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I use Crossfit's Work Out of the Day & have seen tremendous overall conditioning results. It defines fitness as it should be. Not a 1RM site or powerlifitng/bodybuliding system, but an overall body conditioning method that prepares the body for practical use, combatives especially. Stresses muscular strength & endurance & the pathological systems to fuel both. Eric V. M.S. in Kinesiology --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 03:56:49 -0700 (PDT) From: isagani abon Subject: Re: [Eskrima] FMA FAQ updated To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Ray, can i ask to look at Rapido Realismo Martial arts site. an FMA system and if it is possible to be added to your FMA FAQ. Guro Isagani Ray Terry wrote: fyi... Three new style entries have been added to our FMA FAQ. Modern Arnis 80 (MA-80), Pronus-Supinus Cadena De Mano, and San Miguel Eskrima Asosasyon of Cebu. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 1900 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [Eskrima] FMA FAQ updated To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 10:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > can i ask to look at Rapido Realismo Martial arts site. an FMA system and if it is possible to be added to your FMA FAQ. > Simply submit an entry similar in format to those currently included in the FMA FAQ and we'll go from there. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 15:50:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Leo Salinel To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] arnis or kali? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I agree with Professor Bot Jocano. Placido Yambao didn't invent the word in 1957; for sure he got it somewhere. The problem is, we don't know where he got that. Another historical puzzle is the fact that the late GM Floro Villabrille and GM Benny Largusa were the first Americanized Pinoys to use "kali" as a term to refer to their arnis/eskrima. And yet I assume it isn't likely or possible even for those guys to read Placido Yambao's book, which was published by the University of the Philippines Press in 1957 as an academic sort of book (in 1957, GM Villabrille had been in the USA for more than 20 years. And I doubt if GM Largusa, who was born in Hawaii, speaks Tagalog). So the question remains: WHERE DID THEY GET THE WORD kali? I have a novel theory that the answer to this riddle lies in the "Pulahan" cultist groups. GM Villabrille trained with the Pulahans, and GM Braulio Pedoy learned his arnis from Faustino Ablin, a Pulahan chieftain, from whom he got the story of their art of Derobio being one of "those pre-colonial fighting styles that went underground when the Spaniards outlawed the use of blades" (quoting from the Derobio website). Could there be a Pulahan connection to all this? ===== Earn $$ just by receiving and reading email! http://www.resource-a-day.net/member/index.cgi?Brandon96 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [Eskrima] arnis or kali? To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 17:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > I have a novel theory that the answer to this riddle > lies in the "Pulahan" cultist groups. GM Villabrille > trained with the Pulahans, and GM Braulio Pedoy > learned his arnis from Faustino Ablin, a Pulahan > chieftain, from whom he got the story of their art of > Derobio being one of "those pre-colonial fighting > styles that went underground when the Spaniards > outlawed the use of blades" (quoting from the Derobio > website). Could there be a Pulahan connection to all this? I was once in contact with a Chris Sangico(sp?) from the San Diego area that was a relative of Pedoy's and was teaching Pedoy's art of Derobio. But his email and website died. Anyone have current info for Derobio Chris? Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest