Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 03:01:49 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #195 - 7 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. RE: kaburata techniques (dwayne howie) 2. Re: Information please (Richard Digger) 3. RE: FMA in Seattle (Ron Balicki) 4. FMA (Modern Arnis) in Seattle and Portland Areas (Andrew Evans) 5. Bounce Backs. (Phil Hurcum) 6. RE: FMA (Modern Arnis) in Seattle and Portland Areas (Ken Grubb) 7. History (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "dwayne howie" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] kaburata techniques Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 00:27:46 -0400 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net great info guys on the kaburata but also remember the good old belt that we wear with a heavy or improvised buckle. i used to do the same with the keys but had more than a couple of repairs done to ignitions on cars because of the weight pulling down on it. never thought it was heavy enough to cause problems but after the second bill for ignition repair on different vehicles i reverted back to the standard quick draw belt pull out and hopefully not drop my pants. ha. >From: "rob mulligan" >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [Eskrima] kaburata techniques >Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 12:55:11 -0400 > >Hi all again… > >  > >Somehow while over proofreading myself, I forgot to mention the teeny >tiny little detail > >that most, if not all of the techniques I use with my key-ring blackjack >are scaled down versions of what Pung Guro Marinas taught me for the >Tabak –Toyok. > >Please excuse my overlooking that. > >  > >Guro Rob Mulligan / kwikstik.com > >  > >  > >                        > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Watch LIVE baseball games on your computer with MLB.TV, included with MSN >Premium! >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 1900 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima _________________________________________________________________ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Richard Digger" To: Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Information please Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 12:34:24 +0100 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I"ve been told that there is an old scottish form of stick fighting called "single stick" that was once used for training broadsword techniques. It is apparently a lot more basic than FMA, afraid i don't know more than that but if you find anything out could you let me know. Tricky ----- Original Message ----- From: Ollie Batts To: Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 6:17 PM Subject: [Eskrima] Information please > Can anyone on the Digest give me any information about Anglo Saxon, Celtic, > Neolithic and Caveman fighting arts please? ;o) > > Pugil > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 1900 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Ron Balicki" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] FMA in Seattle Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 14:49:44 +0000 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net In Washington State you also have: Clif Lenderman Lenderman Martial Arts Academy 12702 Pacific Ave south Tacoma, WA 98444 (253) 531-1963 Cliff Lenderman and Mark Olsen Martial Arts Training Academy Bremerton, WA (360) 337-7722 Mark Olsen Bremerton, WA Hope this helps Ron Balicki >-- __--__-- > >Message: 6 >Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 08:45:43 -0700 >From: "Chris H." >To: eskrima_digest >CC: >Subject: [Eskrima] FMA in Seattle >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > >Hi, > >Off the top of my head, here are a few people teaching FMA/IMA in the >Seattle area that I am aware of: > >Myrlino Hufana - Modern Arnis >Sheryl Johnson - Doce Pares (Cacoy) >Bob Edmonds - Doce Pares (Cacoy) >Chris Herrman - Doce Pares (Diony) >Andy Wilson - Inosanto Blend >The Filipino Cultural Center - Inosanto Blend >LESKAS - Master Ybanez passed away recently (RIP), but still has students in >the area >Jim Ingram - Silat > >My apologies if I've left anyone off, misspelled anyone's name, or mistaken >anyone's style. > >Send me an e-mail if you make it out here and need contact info for anyone >or would like to train in the Doce Pares "Multi-Style" System. > >Sincerely, >Chris H. >chris@chrisherrman.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best Restaurant Giveaway Ever! Vote for your favorites for a chance to win $1 million! --__--__-- Message: 4 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: "Andrew Evans" Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 10:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Eskrima] FMA (Modern Arnis) in Seattle and Portland Areas Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I'm more familiar with Modern Arnis so here goes... In addition to Punong Guro Myrlino P. Hufana (Bellevue) in the Seattle area, four other people come to mind: Datu Kelly Worden (Tacoma), Guro Ken Smith (Renton), Guro George Hoover (University Place), and Guro Chris Arena (Gig Harbor). I haven't met PG Hufana yet and only met Guro Chris in passing. But I can personally attest that the highly acclaimed Datu Kelly, Guro Ken, and Guro George are EXTREMELY skilled. As for Portland, there's Dan Anderson (Gresham). I haven't met him yet but had been very impressed with his books. The above folks should be easy to find on the web or you can feel free to contact me for their contact information. Regards, Andrew Evans www.KempoArnis.com _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 10:21:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Hurcum To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Bounce Backs. Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net You should see my new inlaws faces, after marrying their daughter and moving into their basement, setting up my lathe making a three section staff and popping into their back yard the following weekend. I put on my WEKAF helmet and started firing the three section staff around in an effort to teach myself. How hard can it be right? Ha!! That thing really bounces back. Or my Mom the first time I took my machete to the tire tree. Luckily I have managed to reproduce. Doing my bit for the gene pool. Happy Long weekend to all the Kanadians on the list. Phil ===== Phil Hurcum .:Head Instructor:. Arkangel Martial Arts and Combat Sciences "Honour, Duty, Obligation, and Discipline" www.arkangelmartialarts.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains – Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Ken Grubb" To: Subject: RE: [Eskrima] FMA (Modern Arnis) in Seattle and Portland Areas Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 11:12:17 -0700 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I'm a student of PG Hufana's in Bellevue, and he's absolutely first rate. http://www.arnisador.com Ken Grubb Bellevue, WA --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net (Eskrima) Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 19:48:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Eskrima] History Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net A blast from the past. A reprint from 9.5 years ago... Ray ========================================================= Taken from the Kris Cutlery catalog (#7). Kris Cutlery sells a fine variety of Moro Kris and Barongs, Indonesian Keris and other weapons. For more info contact Kris Cutlery at 2314 Monte Verde Dr., Pinole, CA 94564, 510/758-9912. Any typos are probably a result of my scanner & OCR s/w. Ray Terry ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Historical Background Philippines, Indonesia and Malaysia have some of the most varied edge weapons in the world! Some historians have grouped these three countries into one: The Malay World. Similarities in language, culture and racial stock are sometimes not easily recognized due to the colonial influence of the past and the political boundaries that exist up to the present. Indonesia was occupied by Dutch colonizers; Philippines, by the Spanish conquistadores; and Malaysia by the British Empire. The subjugation of these countries resulted in bloodshed in some areas. In Sumatra, the Aceh and Menangkabaws had a long record of uprisings against the Dutch. The Bugis from Sulawesi also gave the colonizers a lot of trouble. In the Philippines, the battle with the Islamized Pilipinos (Moros) was endless. The Spaniards were relentless in waging wars with these "savage, heathens with krisses!" Finally after three hundred years of failure, the Spanish conquistadores had to leave for the next colonizers: the Americanos. The Moros favored bladed weapons. The most prestigious were the kris, barongs & kampilans. These bladed weapons were used for combat only. Blades vary in size and weight to suit the individual warrior. Handles were made of wood like bunti which is a hardwood from a root of a particular tree. Weapons like the kris, originated in Java and spread to different islands of Madura, Bali, Sumatra and Sulawesi...probably during the Majapahit Empire. The Southern part of the Philippines which is closest to Indonesia, picked up some cultural, religious, and social exchange early on. The Moros of Southern Philippines developed the Indonesian thrusting kris into a slashing combat sword. The Moro kris became a symbol of authority amongst the Sultanates that existed then . The Moro kris is an excellent sword in group fighting due to the fact that the double edge can be used in either direction. In Indonesia, the kris developed into a mystical weapon with complex association to power, magic, and wealth . Literally hundreds of blade forms and pamor (laminations on the blade) exist today and are some of the most beautiful work of art. Beras wutah or scattered rice grains is the most common pamor which we sometimes call a random pattern. The Indoneisan kris normally does not have an edge since it is a thrusting weapon. The Moro barongs have a different development. With no obvious popular prototypes in Indonesia, it is most likely that the barong took a later transformation into a combat sword than the kris. The barongs curve edge and relatively wide blade have made it a weapon with tremendous cutting power. It is an easy sword to maneuver compared to others. Barongs are found in Zamboanga, Basilan, Sulu Islands, southern tip of Palawan and Sabah, North Borneo. It is the favorite weapon in one to one close combat amongst the Moros: Tausugs, Samals & Yakans. [end] --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest