Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 03:01:48 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #265 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Reply Motto's (Nigel) 2. Motto (geo howard) 3. Re: Reply Motto's (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5kan_Hedr=E9n?=) 4. (no subject) (Alex Ercia) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Nigel" To: "Eskrima Digest" Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 21:38:06 +1000 Subject: [Eskrima] Reply Motto's Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 09:21:08 -0700 (PDT)< >From: ken jo kenjo73@yahoo.com< >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net< >Subject: [Eskrima] Re: mottos< >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net< >si vic pacem, para bellum< Okay, I give in! What's it mean? And who's Vic? Nigel --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 08:50:01 -0700 (PDT) From: geo howard To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Motto Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Remember it only took Jesus two sticks to beat the devil. cordially,Howard --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 17:53:49 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5kan_Hedr=E9n?= To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Reply Motto's Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net If you want peace, prepare for war. /Angus Nigel wrote: >>Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 09:21:08 -0700 (PDT)< >>From: ken jo kenjo73@yahoo.com< >>To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net< >>Subject: [Eskrima] Re: mottos< >>Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net< >> >> > > > >>si vic pacem, para bellum< >> >> > > >Okay, I give in! What's it mean? And who's Vic? > >Nigel >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 1900 members >Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Alex Ercia" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 09:16:31 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] (no subject) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net This response is regarding the statement of Bram that MOdern Arnis is Blade based and influenced by his grandfather and uncle. >From what GM Ernesto Presas told us Modern Arnis has bladed oriented >aspects and stick oriented aspects. But the fact that it was a bladed >oriented art contradicts the grabbing/catching of the stick. ONe of the >most distinct movements of Modern arnis. Modern arnis modified all the old >styles of the Presas family to suit the needs of the Modern times. That is >why in the basic curriculum of teaching we have the Modern arnis aspect and >the Classical/traditional arnis then it is combined together. Modern arnis >is taught as a stick oriented art. The quote you will always hear from us >old school students of Modern in the Philippines is Di mo naman lagi bitbit >yang itak. Kaya nga pinalitan ang itak ng yantok. (You won't be carrying a >bolo or machete all the time. That is why we replaced the itak with a >rattan stick). Which goes to the point of MODERNIZING ARNIS the Presas way. >Then the Masters used to tell us that it was a MORTAL SIN to grab the >stick. But the Presas always say ONLY IF YOU WERE ATTACKING US WITH A >STICK. In tagalog- Kapag ang kalaban mo may hawak ng itak bawal ang >sunggaban ang talim. Eh ang hawak ay yantok. Bakit bawal sunggaban ang >yantok.(If the attacker is using a bladed weapon then it is a mortal sin to >grab the blade. But He is mostly using a rattan stick. Why not grab the >stick? Modern arnis was based on the cane but still utilizes the blades >aspects. Now it is known that Remy and his brothers did study with MOngkal >and balaintawak. That we asked GM Ernesto. He said that the Modern arnis >was influenced by Balintawak. Alex _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest