Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 03:01:50 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #307 - 3 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Angles (1@msfencing.org) 2. Re: Angles (Ray Terry) 3. Sensitive issue.... (Walter Vorhauer) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: <1@msfencing.org> To: Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:55:07 -0500 Organization: 1@msfencing.org Subject: [Eskrima] Angles Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net In Historical European Swordsmanship, which is my background, there are primarily 8 angles of attack taught with the cutting weapons. (Some of the ancient masters left off the last two angles which are Vertical cuts). I'd be interested in hearing from you how these angles and their targets compare with the angles of attack taught by the various styles of Eskrima, Arnis, and Kali. Historical European Angles of Attack (Short Sword, Backsword, Longsword, Two-Handed Sword) Assuming a right handed sword: #1 - Outside to Inside from High to Low attack cutting the opponent from his left shoulder down to his right hip. #2 - Right shoulder to left hip #3 - Outside to Inside from Low to High attack cutting the opponent from his left hip up to his right shoulder #4 - Right hip to left shoulder #5 - Horizontal cut from left hip to right hip #6 - Horizontal cut from right hip to left hip #7 - Vertical cut strait down at head #8 - Vertical cut strait up at crotch / chin Blessings, Rez Johnson "Standing guard on old, forgotten roads, that no one travels anymore." THE FENCING MASTER by Arturo Perez Rez Johnson, M d'A Headmaster: Mississippi Academy of Arms (Mississippi Fencing Academy) President: United States Traditional Fencing Association Certified Fencing Instructor: (USTFA, TFI, AAI, USFCA) Certified Fencing Master Apprentice: (USTFA, USFCA) Teaching Classical Fencing and Historical Swordsmanship since 1980 Modern Sport Fencing Coach 1980 - 2002 Mississippi Academy of Arms P.O. Box 955 Pelahatchie, MS 39145-0955 E-Mail: 1@MSFencing.org Academy Website: http://MSFencing.org USTFA Website: http://traditionalfencing.org --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Angles To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > In Historical European Swordsmanship, which is my background, there are > primarily 8 angles of attack taught with the cutting weapons. > (Some of the ancient masters left off the last two angles which are Vertical > cuts). > > I'd be interested in hearing from you how these angles and their targets > compare with the angles of attack taught by the various styles of Eskrima, > Arnis, and Kali. The angles you describe are very similar to largo mano styles. Some largo styles use the plus sign (+) arrangement, some use the times sign (x) arrangement and some use the + and x together. Looks like yours uses the latter. Usually there will be a straight thrust angle to the point the lines in the + and/or the x meet, i.e. the center. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 16:04:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Walter Vorhauer To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Sensitive issue.... Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Greetings to All, The purpose of this message is to gather information about a former pentjak silat practioner named Suryadi Jaffri. I was told (by my sources) that he passed away in 1998 under a "....misadvanture with Mr. Leo Gaje...". I was hoping to confirm the information that I have and if anyone had any more detailed information about the gentleman in question, it would be much appreciate. I only wish to know the circumstances and conditions of Mr. Jaffri's passing. This may be a sensitive issue with people who know Mr. Gaje and I don't wish to show any disrespect or ill-will towards Mr. Gaje or anyone associated with him or anyone who supports him and his art form. If anyone could direct me to any information and e-mail me privately about the topic above, I would be very grateful. Waltyr V. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest