Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 03:01:59 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #313 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. RE: RE: Dim Mak in a domestic dispute.... (barry meadows) 2. Re: Jimmy Tacosa's KdM (Kes41355@aol.com) 3. re: kadena de mano (michael and susan) 4. Re: re: kadena de mano (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "barry meadows" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] RE: Dim Mak in a domestic dispute.... Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 23:56:13 +0000 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I agree That is the best,accurate,truthful post on the knife and knife fighting I have read all summer long. Does the ED give awards>It deserves one. Truth knows no style.Styles express levels of truth. Barry Meadows >From: Buz Grover >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Dim Mak in a domestic dispute.... >Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 18:27:12 -0400 > >Bobbie Edmonds wrote: > >>This is an important area that is seldom addressed. The knife has its own >>unique theory of use, its own language. Wielding it competently isn't a >>casual skill, it takes years to achieve anything resembling mastery. There >>are no hard & fast rules for knife play, you must take into consideration >>so >>many different variables that it would be impossible to categorize them >>minimally. If you leave the concept of "Style" out for a moment, you will >>find a large portion of blade craft is ubiquitous. It has no real home >>other >>than itself, and therefore can lend itself to any style of technique. Due >>to >>the nebulous nature of knife fighting, there are also many abstract >>theories >>& motions that have no real category other than "dirty tricks & sneaky >>moves". Many people get caught up in the aspects of style in the martial >>arts, what system has the best moves, the most complete repertoire, >>hundreds >>of forms, etc. This is a mistake when addressing the knife, you should >>instead examine the weapon itself. What does it do? Unlike the stick, the >>blade is at once powerful without the use of muscles, and lethal without >>the >>backing of a martial art. It only has to touch you to do damage, A child >>could kill with it in seconds, by accident. You must approach this area of >>training with utter seriousness, and develop it to a high degree. You >>don't >>have to necessarily be strong to use a knife, the knife has all the power. >>It only has to touch you to do damage. All the knifer really provides is a >>weapon delivery system and it can come in at varied speeds, with erratic >>motions and awkward angles. >>_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 1900 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Kes41355@aol.com Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 20:13:24 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Jimmy Tacosa's KdM Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Ray, Back in the mid-'80's, I had the pleasure of meeting Jimmy Tacosa and training with him a couple of times. His empty hand is amazing; fast, powerful, frightening. One thing Jimmy did emphasize was to smother the opponent's attack, just basically overwhelming him with trapping motions (with a forward energy that drove the opponent's limbs into their own body and pinned the limbs there), then his follow-ups were much like Mike and Max's...lots of use of the hammerfist, elbow, and palm heel. I didn't see much gunting, although Jimmy was familiar with the concept. He instead would drive through and attack target areas such as the ear, jaw line, throat, and the armpit (struck with a driving elbow after moving under an attack). To be honest, he most reminded me of Paul Vunak; just an overwhelming, driving energy that was very difficult to deal with. Kim Satterfield In a message dated 8/16/04 5:34:52 AM US Eastern Standard Time, eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > Jimmy and Rene probably did as Mike did, added their own influence and > structure to what Max taught them. I haven't seen anything from Jimmy in > this area, --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "michael and susan" To: Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 20:31:54 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] re: kadena de mano Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net thanks ray, i wasnt aware that mr inay had included the knife translations. i was aware that he had developed knife technique, used to instruct LEO. i might have to view some of his work, as i have a aquaintance who has a few of his tapes. thanks again guro mike --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [Eskrima] re: kadena de mano To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 18:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > thanks ray, > i wasnt aware that mr inay had included the knife translations. > i was aware that he had developed knife technique, used to instruct LEO. > i might have to view some of his work, as i have a aquaintance who has a few > of his tapes. You may be thinking of RKD (Reactive Knife Defense). That is a short pgm for LEOs. KdM is very nice knife system, one of the better ones you'll come across. imho Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest