Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:01:53 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #319 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. RE: Thanks... (Bobbe Edmonds) (TREVOR SAYLE) 2. Re: The Buzz (Buz Grover) 3. INAYAN DVDs in the US (ABANICO) 4. Serrada Escrima lessons in Santa Cruz and Palo Alto, California. (garry bowlds) 5. take out the structure (sdrape@kbs-system.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "TREVOR SAYLE" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:44:05 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] RE: Thanks... (Bobbe Edmonds) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hey I don't think you're a bastard. By the way I'm a student of Bobbe Edmonds. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:26:33 -0400 From: Buz Grover To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: The Buzz Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Baboy writes: > Some of the things you listed are > what I would use in guerrilla tactics, should America ever be invaded, > or > Homeland Security gets a little too big for it's britches. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks in those terms. > However, for everyday mugger-repellant, a nice folder or a sweet > medium sized fighter is > sufficient. Agreed, though I live in a state that allows concealed carry, a factor which enters into my self-defense calculus. > Also, going back to my original post, knife work needs very > little training. I won't go into what it would take to pilot a F-117. No disagreement here. Just hope folks who spend a lot of time training knife techniques know there is someone out there spending time at the range with a shotgun. You get inside on the shotgun and he's toast, but that first 20 meters is murder. . . . > I coerced her onto walking back the long way, through > well-lit areas, and she accused me of being paranoid. I get that a lot, too. I live outside of DC; whenever we have guests in town a trip to the museums and monuments is usually in order. These days downtown just about everybody has metal detection equipment set up in the doorways, which for the most part precludes weapon carry. The net result is a fair degree of discomfort for those who are situationally aware: relative comfort within the museums since everyone is 'sposed to be disarmed, a degree of discomfort on the Mall and other public space where there are always a couple sickly predators looking for easy prey, and outright angst near the "Raptor Paddocks" on the periphery of the Federal triangle. Being a tour guide to the semi-conscious is no fun at all. > A good point that I agree with, but I have found that if you display a > willingness for violence as well (deploy the knife in time for the > attacker > to see it before he attacks) you will often find the other guy just > doesn't > have the stomach for it, now that they know the fight won't be as > one-sided > as they assumed. Oh yeah, there has been a time or two when a judicious "click" has caused someone to modify his benefit/cost analysis. Just wanted to point out that there are options other than whipping out your knife and getting into the Applegate/Fairbain Kill or be Killed stance. > Buz, were you a military guy? Many of your thoughts are from the > perspective > of a soldier, and mine are obviously civilian. Nah, though I am a student of military history. Have crossed paths with a lot of military folks in a number of ways. Back in my late teens, for instance, I was deemed a juvenile delinquent, mostly for subversive and psychotropic reasons. As that may be, diversionary programs like Outward Bound were all the rage back then, as was a program called "Scared Straight." The town I grew up in decided to give that stuff a whirl; they started a program where a bunch of us JDs were sent out to the boonies with the local Special Forces reserve unit. They were 'sposed to turn us into productive citizens by scaring the snot out of us while dangling from ropes. Turned out to be a major tactical error: sure the Berets taught us climbing, ropework, field craft, etc; but they were also in the business of training indigenous forces to work behind enemy lines. They thought it would be amusing to haul a bunch of us delinquents down to Fort Benning for use in war games. We, of course, could think of nothing niftier and so dove into the extracurricular training. Got taught how to cook snakes and fish with practice grenades; we all studied the Improvised Munitions Handbook and infiltration tactics, and so on. Pretty soon the incidence of hijinks went up around town while fewer of us were getting caught. The town fathers eventually put two and two together, hired a sweetness and light program administrator, and cut ties with the SF guys. We kept all the reading material they provided, though. Regards, Buz Grover --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:58:35 +0200 From: abanico-video-knuettel@t-online.de (ABANICO) Organization: ABANICO GmbH & Co KG To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] INAYAN DVDs in the US Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >>>From: hanosh@inayaneskrima.com >>> >>>I just wanted to put in a plug for the Inayan Videos and DVDs. >>>They are both available at the following link here in North America. >>> >>> > >Do you know if they are in stock here in the USA or will they be dropped >shipped from Germany? > >Also does Grand Master Cabales have any vidoe tapes for sale? > >Blessings, >Rez Johnson > > Hi Rez, the INAYAN DVDs are in stock in the US with Cory Hanosh. He had ordered a larger amout of DVDs so he will be able to send an order from his stock. Regards Dieter Knüttel ABANICO --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:24:31 -0700 (PDT) From: garry bowlds To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Serrada Escrima lessons in Santa Cruz and Palo Alto, California. Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello all, For anyone who is interested, I'm teaching Serrada Escrima in the cities of Santa Cruz and Palo Alto in California. You can go to www.escrimador.tk for more info about myself and a couple of videos of me doing flow sparring and lock and block with the late Master Angel Cabales. Guro Garry Bowlds Cabales/Inayan Escrima __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:35:13 +0300 From: sdrape@kbs-system.com To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] take out the structure Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Take his feet out, collapse > his leg, drag him off balance and let gravity do the work. In short, attack > his structure. It's hard for him to chase you when he is laying on the > ground now isn't it? It brings to mind a story about some guy high on the drug of the moment back in Florida. If I remember correctly (and Steve, if you are reading this, you can add details or correct me if I remember it wrong), a couple of LEO's were trying to subdue this guy, but he chose to attack rather than submit. They both pulled out their weapons and proceded to fill this guy full of holes. Nothing stopped him- the number of wounds was quite high as I recall, and afterwards, it was found that the guy had bled almost completely out- was dead on his feet. Now he would have eventually fallen, there's no doubt, but what finally took him down was a shot (likely aimed higher) which broke his pelvis, and it was finally over. I have another story of leaving a bar after hearing gunshots to find two guys in a clinch on the ground, and the guy on the bottom was in serious trouble from the hands wrapped around his neck, in fact spent time in the hospital because of the trauma to his trachea. We got the guy off him, then found that the guy doing the strangling had been shot four times in the chest with a .357 Magnum. He died shortly thereafter, and the guy we "saved" went to prison. (where he was killed for shooting the other guy, but that's a different story!) My point is simply that hands or knives (and obviously even guns) don't guarantee anything in that short, infinitely expanded time period when stuff is going down. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest