Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 03:01:55 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #330 - 6 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Ron Balicki Seminar in NJ (Integrated Martial Arts & Fitness) 2. Angeleno awareness (Marc Denny) 3. Re: Norlito Soriano style of arnis (Ray Terry) 4. Re: Angeleno awareness (ulfhead@integrity.com) 5. Re: Baton links (Brodie Allum) 6. RE: Re: Baton links (Sonny Padilla) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Integrated Martial Arts & Fitness" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 12:26:15 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Ron Balicki Seminar in NJ Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net We are hosting Ron Balicki Oct 9 and 10th at Integrated Martial Arts in Livingston, NJ - Sat & Sun Oct 9th and 10th. Anyone interested please email us or call at (973) 422-1500. Thanks, Don --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Marc Denny" To: Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 08:44:22 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] Angeleno awareness Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Woof All: > From: ulfhead@integrity.com > > Thank you for sharing that story. I, being a father of two, have found that my > alertness level went way up once I became a father. And a husband for that > matter. Awareness really is a great tool. Since we are on that subject can > anyone suggest some good reads, DVDs, etc... on awareness? Living and working > in East Los Angeles I have collected my own set of "awareness tools" but I am > always looking for upgrades or new perspectives. Thanks again. As a fellow Angeleno, I'm curious about what your East LA set is like. As an Angeleno, I have a few that are probably distinctive of LA myself e.g. about carjackings. At a red light, I make a point of leaving lots of space between me and the car in front of me so that if someone approaches the car I am not blocked in. I cannot say for sure, but I am thoroughly convinced that this saved me one time when I was in a #2 turn lane and a van with three very , , , nefarious , , , looking characters stopped along side me in the #1 turn lane. The one riding shotgun started getting out. I rolled forward nearly a car length Shotgun rider closed the door and they rolled forward to stop again along side of me and again shotgun rider started getting out. I was watching them with the eye in my ear (ie no turn of my head) but I could tell that they knew that I was aware of them. I still had some space in front of my car with which to make a move. I rolled forward a bit more and reached down under my seat as if for a gun, and shotgun rider got back into his vehicle. Extremely hard looks were exchanged when the light turned green a moment later and I let them pass. My asssessment of the situation is that the awareness I showed by 1) having plenty of space in front of my vehicle 2) sensing their approach and responding by rolling forward and doing so each time they tried positioning themselves along side me which 3) led to their deciding not to see if I was bluffing when I quietly reached in front of me under my car seat. Of course this gesture has a fair amount of inherent plausibility in LA. Silly tangent: A college roommate friend from NYC was visiting LA and staying at my place. One day I lent him my car while I did some things and he wanted to do tourist things. When he returned I asked what he thought of LA. "Very nice, but people here are so aggressive." I was surprised that a New Yorker would say such a thing and inquired "What do you mean?" "Well," he said "when you honk your horn they want to fight." Indeed, horn hocking that is perceived as disrespectful can have capital consequences. People can be, and have been, shot over such things. Tangent: I have used my probable carjacking story in political conversations with those seeking a disarmed American people as an example of a successful use of a gun even though I didn't actually have one. Of course the initial reaction is that this is a cheat because I didn't actually have or brandish a gun, but my answer is that the bluff worked because the criminals believed that I very easily actually could have a gun. Anyway, I'm curious as to your East LA variations of awareness-- or perhaps any one else's location specific variations. Woof, Crafty Dog --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Norlito Soriano style of arnis To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 10:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > I was wondering if Norlito Soriano was still teaching? What style does or > did he teach? And was he a student from a grandmaster from the Philippines? > or did he learn it here in the states? All I know of Norlito Soriano is that he apparently still lives here in San Jose, CA. He shows up in the web phone books with a phone number given, but no street address. Eddie Lastra of the Sayas-Lastra Arnis System studied under Norlito briefly. Ray Terry rterry@idiom.com --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 12:52:01 -0500 From: ulfhead@integrity.com To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Angeleno awareness Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Quoting Marc Denny : > Woof All: > > > From: ulfhead@integrity.com > > > > Thank you for sharing that story. I, being a father of two, have found > that my > > alertness level went way up once I became a father. And a husband for that > > matter. Awareness really is a great tool. Since we are on that subject can > > anyone suggest some good reads, DVDs, etc... on awareness? Living and > working > > in East Los Angeles I have collected my own set of "awareness tools" but I > am > > always looking for upgrades or new perspectives. Thanks again. > > As a fellow Angeleno, I'm curious about what your East LA set is like. As > an Angeleno, I have a few that are probably distinctive of LA myself e.g. > about carjackings. At a red light, I make a point of leaving lots of space > between me and the car in front of me so that if someone approaches the car > I am not blocked in. > Well Marc I'm no expert here but here are some things I have learned and most are common sense... (1) The car horn - or just basic driving rules. It used to be that if someone cut you off you could shout or flip them the finger for revenge (if that's what makes you feel better). As you noted, that can get you shot in today's climate. Things like keeping space from other cars (as you mentioned) so as to not find yourself pinned in. (2) Parking it well lit areas, being warry of certain gas stations, knowing what alley ways or streets are best left alone, using ATMs in high traffic areas (not the ones hidden behind the bank near the dumpster), paying attention to who is around you, how many, clothing (especially clothing that could conceal), where there hands are, how long have they been whispering and/or looking in your dirction... Knowing where the local authorities are, how often they patrol, being on friendly terms with local business owners, knowing where phones are for emergencies, etc... (3) As a teacher in East L.A. I will often make home visits to my students to discuss grades, behaviors, etc... I've had to be careful of pitbulls in backyards, local gangs, etc... So before I make a visit I simply scout the area out so I know what the neighbohood rules are. And being a caucasion, with long hair, and tatoos (hidden by clothes - but the students ocasionally see one peek from under a shirt sleeve), I have to be extra careful. Not so much due to racial issues (they do exist) but because I STAND out so easily. I have to really work on getting lost in a crowd. But it can be done... (4) Sure, I coul carry a .45 and a nice shank and really give it to anyone who messes w/ me. Of course I then have to deal w/ his "gang", prison time, having my family marked, etc... So what has really worked for me is to try to not be in the wrong places at the wrong times (dark alley at 11pm), know as much as I can about the area, look like I know what I'm doing and where I'm going ALL the time (lost sheep look like easy prey), ignore (but monitor) other people's petty behavior problems, and most importantly remember that it's not just about me anymore but about protecting my wife and children. Nothing ground breaking here I know but it has kept me and mine safe. Anyone else out there with good stuff to add??? Thanks. - Tyrkon - > I cannot say for sure, but I am thoroughly convinced that this saved me one > time when I was in a #2 turn lane and a van with three very , , , nefarious > , , , looking characters stopped along side me in the #1 turn lane. The one > riding shotgun started getting out. I rolled forward nearly a car length > Shotgun rider closed the door and they rolled forward to stop again along > side of me and again shotgun rider started getting out. I was watching them > with the eye in my ear (ie no turn of my head) but I could tell that they > knew that I was aware of them. I still had some space in front of my car > with which to make a move. I rolled forward a bit more and reached down > under my seat as if for a gun, and shotgun rider got back into his vehicle. > Extremely hard looks were exchanged when the light turned green a moment > later and I let them pass. > > My asssessment of the situation is that the awareness I showed by 1) having > plenty of space in front of my vehicle 2) sensing their approach and > responding by rolling forward and doing so each time they tried positioning > themselves along side me which 3) led to their deciding not to see if I was > bluffing when I quietly reached in front of me under my car seat. Of course > this gesture has a fair amount of inherent plausibility in LA. > > Silly tangent: A college roommate friend from NYC was visiting LA and > staying at my place. One day I lent him my car while I did some things and > he wanted to do tourist things. When he returned I asked what he thought of > LA. "Very nice, but people here are so aggressive." I was surprised that a > New Yorker would say such a thing and inquired "What do you mean?" "Well," > he said "when you honk your horn they want to fight." > > Indeed, horn hocking that is perceived as disrespectful can have capital > consequences. People can be, and have been, shot over such things. > > Tangent: I have used my probable carjacking story in political > conversations with those seeking a disarmed American people as an example of > a successful use of a gun even though I didn't actually have one. Of course > the initial reaction is that this is a cheat because I didn't actually have > or brandish a gun, but my answer is that the bluff worked because the > criminals believed that I very easily actually could have a gun. > > > Anyway, I'm curious as to your East LA variations of awareness-- or perhaps > any one else's location specific variations. > > Woof, > Crafty Dog > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 1900 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 17:35:01 -0300 To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net From: Brodie Allum Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Baton links Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Anyone know of any Canada-based sites selling batons (ASP, Monadnock, or otherwise)? --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Sonny Padilla" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Re: Baton links Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 17:21:13 -0600 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Try Darren Daoust of Cutting Edge. His email is darren.d@shaw.ca. He supplied my ASP. Tks. Sonny >From: Brodie Allum >Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Baton links >Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 17:35:01 -0300 > >Anyone know of any Canada-based sites selling batons (ASP, Monadnock, or >otherwise)? >_______________________________________________ >Eskrima mailing list, 1900 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net >Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource >Standard disclaimers apply >http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima _________________________________________________________________ Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses from your inbound and outbound e-mail and attachments. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSNŽ Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. 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