Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 03:04:52 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #383 - 3 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Help: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on behemoth2.host4u.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=DEAR_SOMETHING, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: ** Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: Send Eskrima mailing list submissions to eskrima@martialartsresource.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net You can reach the person managing the list at eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Eskrima digest..." <<---- The Sudlud-Inayan Eskrima/Kali/Arnis/FMA mailing list ---->> Serving the Internet since June 1994. Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 1900 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. Bong Sao and the feint/bawk (Peter Gow) 2. Bon Sao and Counters (Phil Elmore) 3. Re: DOES ANYONE HAVE VIDEO FOOTAGE ON PROFESSOR VEE? (HAKIM82@aol.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Peter Gow" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 23:48:00 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Bong Sao and the feint/bawk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Dear Phil, I totally agree with what you said regarding Bong Sao/Bong Sau. Yes the energy should always be forward but this does not alter the fact that the elbow is not pointing to the floor and having experienced the effectiveness of one Wing Chun Grand Master who has superior skills in this art to me, I experienced first hand what can be done when someone wants you to do Bong Sao. Regards, Peter Gow Australia.   --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:24:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Elmore To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Bon Sao and Counters Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Peter, That's true -- but just as there are liabilities to performing bon sao when someone *wants* you to, there are liabilities to performing, say, lop sao in the same situation (one of the most common liabilities *being* bon sao, ha ha). Everything's a tradeoff. I once asked a particularly skilled Silat instructor, "What happens when two people with great skill in the same art square off? Does it come down to who is faster?" "No," he said, "to who *flows* more." Phil www.themartialist.com Peter Gow wrote: ... I experienced first hand what can be done when someone wants you to do Bong Sao. -------------- - Phil Elmore --__--__-- Message: 3 From: HAKIM82@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:44:01 EDT To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Re: DOES ANYONE HAVE VIDEO FOOTAGE ON PROFESSOR VEE? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Dear Sirs: Does anyone out there have any video of the late Professor Florendo Visitication of the Vee Arnis Jitsu, Vee Jitsu Ryu Systems? I am hoping for any archival footage of seminars and like materials that may be hidden in storage or just laying around. Thanks! Sensei Erskine Isaac --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest