Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 03:01:50 -0700 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #386 - 8 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Re: schools (Chris Snell) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: To: Subject: Re: Re: [Eskrima] Combat Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:36:39 -0500 Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Speaking of tactical, check out this new item from TAD Gear! http://www.tadgear.com/x-treme%20gear/accessories%20main/uco_ice_cream_maker.htm Joe > > From: WoodyTX > Date: 2004/10/21 Thu PM 01:54:10 CDT > To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Combat > > Next on the list: "Tactical". It's gotten to the point where you > could dye toilet paper flat black and sell it for $5 a roll as a > "Manually Operated Tactical Waste Removal Device". > > The only word that gets more mileage is "Extreme". But don't get me > started there; I'll have to drink a few Mountain Dews.... > > WoodyTX > > > On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:35:25 -0700, Marc Denny wrote: > > Woof All: > > > > Just a quick yip of complete agreement to the notion that the term "Combat" > > being widely and wildly overused. > > > > Crafty Dog > > _______________________________________________ > > Eskrima mailing list, 1900 members > > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > > Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > > Standard disclaimers apply > > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 1900 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:40:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Kohn Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Combat To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hi Marc, Havent seen you in some time. I hope your doing well. While I havent followed this thread, I have to agree that the term "combat" does get thrown around rather lightly. Its especially funny when you hear a guy say it that probably hasnt ever been in a street fight. That sort of guy usually wont know much about real combat. Rolling around on concrete with someone who genuinely wants to hurt you can teach a person much. If I've somehow missed the point...nevermind. Best, Steve Kohn Marc Denny wrote: Woof All: Just a quick yip of complete agreement to the notion that the term "Combat" being widely and wildly overused. Crafty Dog _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list, 1900 members Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Marc Macyoung" To: Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 23:16:22 -0600 Subject: [Eskrima] re: Marc "Animal" Macyoung on 'da Radio > Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Kelly said > As you stated there are some great interviews in the archives and of course > Marc Macyoung's interview was very informative as well. > It has been mentioned to me in private e-mails that sometimes the written > words of people come off aggressive or arrogant and as you listen to them > via the audio interviews you gain a different prospective of their > personality. but...but...I am an arrogant bastard... :D It's a job requirement for telling nasty people "no" and then enforcing it when they decide to try to make it "yes". If you don't have that "faith" in yourself and what you can do, you'll never get the courage to step up to the line. Yet there has to be a fine balance between being cocky/brave enough to step into danger's path and blind arrogance -- which will get you killed if you find yourself in a situation. It's hard to describe, but there is a definite difference between having what it takes to jump into it and an overwhelming impression of yourself and what you think you know. The difference is one will keep you aware and on your toes (ergo alive) and the other will cause you to stop doing the very things that made you good in the first place (ergo killed). Needless to say I often offend people who insist it is all about one thing. What style you know, how ferocious you are, how good of shape you are, that everything is about some agenda, yada yada, yada. Well maybe they have attitude and training, but I have experience, training, commitment, analysis and years of research to figure out what it was I was seeing out there. The reason that I took this path is that if I can say anything with certanity is that "It" isn't just about one thing. Most of what I learned that kept me alive had less to do with fighting skills and more to do with learning when to use those skills, how to use them appropriately and in what context. The complexity of those issues is the challenge, having seen the results of violence is what lead me to look into thewhys and wherefores I now pursue. It is combined result of all of them that lead me to suspect the importance of these other ideas and their influence on training. It's funny but because I address these issues these days I often get dismissed by a certain type of person in the MA/SD/RBSD world because I don't act like what they think a tough guy should act like. The problem is the behavior they think indicates that someone is good, is exactly the behavior that -- in my experience -- is what gets people killed in live fire situations. Usually because that person is expecting only one thing to carry the day for him (like his fighting skill). Sad to say, it often isn't enough to even save his butt, much less win. Oh but boy howdy will they go on about how it is-- all the while avoiding putting themselves into situations where they could be proven -- perhaps fatally -- wrong. In the meantime, I regularly go alone into places and situations that if I was as incompetent as they say I am, I'd never get out of in one piece. So am I aggressive? Am I arrogant? In a physical conflict, most definately. But in a wider scope, am I difficult to impress? Yep. But the reason that is so isn't because I believe I have found the ultimate answer, it's because the standard that I hold things up to is effectiveness. Does it work as advertized? Where doesn't it work? What are its strengths? Its weakeness? What are the conditions that it is going to help you? And what are the conditions that it is going to get you into more trouble than not having it? These are things that I have learned to consider and what I help others consider. Do I claim to have the answers? No. But will I piss off someone who wants it to be only about one thing? Yes, most definately. Not because I am trying to irrate people, but because I don't accept that contention...and I can easily reveal the flaws of such a contention in an argument. And that's something that many people mistake for being arrogant. --__--__-- Message: 4 From: <1@msfencing.org> To: Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Inayan Kadena De Mano Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 21:33:49 -0500 Organization: 1@msfencing.org Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net >>-----Original Message----- >>From: hanosh@inayaneskrima.com [mailto:hanosh@inayaneskrima.com] >>I just wanted to put in a plug for the Inayan Videos and DVDs. >>They are both available at the following link here in North America. Are they in stock here in the USA or will they be dropped shipped from Germany? Blessings, Rez Johnson "Standing guard on old, forgotten roads, that no one travels anymore." THE FENCING MASTER by Arturo Perez Rez Johnson, M d'A Headmaster: Mississippi Academy of Arms (Mississippi Fencing Academy) President: United States Traditional Fencing Association Certified Fencing Instructor: (USTFA, TFI, AAI, USFCA) Certified Fencing Master Apprentice: (USTFA, USFCA) Teaching Classical Fencing and Historical Swordsmanship since 1980 Modern Sport Fencing Coach 1980 - 2002 Mississippi Academy of Arms P.O. Box 955 Pelahatchie, MS 39145-0955 E-Mail: 1@MSFencing.org Academy Website: http://MSFencing.org USTFA Website: http://traditionalfencing.org --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 06:56:59 -0700 (PDT) From: jason couture To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] tactical toilet paper Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Good one, woodytx! Be careful though, if there are any officers out there reading this news letter, they will probably take your idea and run with it. Next week all the port-a-johns will have tactical desert combat ass paper! High-speed and totally AIRBORNE!! Not trying to make enemies with the "US combat team". The name just hit me wrong first thing in the morning. I've seen and been apart of too much. Take care y'all. ===== **JASON COUTURE** __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "De Campo USA" To: Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:43:14 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] First time ever... Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Filipino Stick & Blade Seminar featuring Roger Agbulos De Campo JDC-IO & LAMECO Eskrima Impact weapon concepts (particularly Largo Mano) With special guest Felix Valencia Valencia LAMECO Eskrima Knife Tactics (Ground to Largo Mano) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- November 14th 2004 9a.m. to 4p.m. six hours w/ 1 hour lunch break -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Space is extremely limited! To reserve your spot, early registration suggested Capacity is limited to the first 20 to sign up and pay -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- $70.00 pre-registration $80.00 at the door (if space is available) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- for more information or to reserve a spot email: decampousa@hotmail.com web: www.DeCampoUSA.com --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 16:43:33 -0700 (PDT) From: jason couture To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] schools Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Anyone know if there are any Sayoc Kali schools in North Carolina? Or any BJJ schools? Thanx, in advance! ===== **JASON COUTURE** _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:37:53 -0400 From: Chris Snell To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: Re: [Eskrima] schools Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I'm not sure about North Carolina, but we have a Sayoc training group here in Virginia Beach, which may not be too far depending on where in NC you're at. Feel free to email me if you'd like more information on the group. Chris On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 16:43:33 -0700 (PDT), jason couture wrote: > Anyone know if there are any Sayoc Kali schools in > North Carolina? Or any BJJ schools? Thanx, in advance! > > ===== > **JASON COUTURE** > > _______________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > http://vote.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Eskrima mailing list, 1900 members > Eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource > Standard disclaimers apply > http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest