Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 03:01:49 -0800 From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 11 #400 - 1 msg X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.13.cisto1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13.cisto1 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Subscribed-Address: fma@martialartsresource.com List-Id: Eskrima-FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The Internet's premier discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. 1900 members. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima/FMA digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! Today's Topics: 1. re: Largo vs. corto... (Marc Macyoung) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Marc Macyoung" To: Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:34:35 -0700 Subject: [Eskrima] re: Largo vs. corto... Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Mr. Sardinas raises an interesting point. "In my opinion close quarter > fighting favors the shorter person. In largomano there is no height > advantage. > I'm 6' tall but very long in the arms, I wear a 43 long coat 9 (I'm really > not a primate, I swear :) ) I also feel most at home in >the largo > distance. I wonder if this is my propencity to use follow & meet methods > and use the riposte strikes? Does anyone >have an opinion ast o weather > this may be due to my "fighting personality" or my build? > -Brian I think you will find that when it comes down to it, the ability to fight up close is more based on training than build. As a general rule of thumb (and remember where the thumb is placed if it isn't being used as a ruler) people tend to prefer two main ranges. It is more obvious with larger people, "farther away where they can use the advantage of reach" and, "grappling distance, where they can over power an opponent" seems to make sense at first glance. But if you really watch it, I think you will see that it pretty much applies across the board, Even smaller people will try to do so, except a smaller person's "long distance" range is shorter, so even though it doesn't look like he is fighting that far out, for the length of his reach, he is. I've both been in and seen a lot of fights and realized these two seem to be the default fight ranges for normal people. Unfortunately, many people treat what is commonly referred to as "trapping range" (what I call "in-fighting) as a transitional range. It's like a small town they pass through on their way to grappling Wisconsin. They just go flying through it without much thought. Fine and dandy until their car breaks down and they find themselves at the mercy of a small town mechanic.(the in-fighter). I will say that there is a much more common tendency of trained smaller people to figure out that being a small town mechanic has serious advantages, than their larger brethren. As such, it would be easy to think that being small in closer range is an automatic advantage. I mean face it, in that range, many a big guy goes "whiskey tango foxtrot?" and is defeated. Truth is though, so does everyone who hasn't trained in that range. It is far more spectacular with a big guy is overwhelmed there, ergo, more noticeable. But it really is a matter of knowing how to operate in that range and not trying to do it in a head on manner, regardless of size. Having said that, I think you will find that far more seldom do, big guys --even "trained" big guys -- know how to operate in that range. As such, they are easily defeatable by smaller people who do know how to play there. So it would be an easy assumption to make that size is the real issue. I can tell you from personal experience that running into a large man who knows how to fight in close is an unnerving experience --especially if you have grown to rely on them NOT knowing. The first time it happened to me I was the one saying "whiskey tango foxtrot!?!" I swear for what seemed like two minutes I couldn't hit the sunnafabitch. Richard Dobson just laughed at me and said "You're fighting me as though I'm a big guy." Well damnit, he is! True, but he had learned how to operate in in-fighting range. That was the event that got me looking into silat and working to learn some of the subtitles, complexities and possibilities of fighting in close. In short (if you will excuse the pun) instead of just doing it, I began to look into "why it worked." Since that time I have encountered several large men who know how to work in close. But I have also discovered that on that level while size does grant advantages, it also burdens you with disadvantages. The same goes with being smaller. While these must be factored in, by and large, it depends on who has the greater mastery of the subtilties, etc. of in-fighting as to who will come out the victor. M --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima http://eskrima-fma.net Old digest issues @ ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com/pub/eskrima Copyright 1994-2004: Ray Terry, MartialArtsResource.com, Sudlud.com Standard disclaimers apply. Remember September 11. End of Eskrima Digest